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The Cricket Thread

markysimmo said:
Why wasn't it dealt with as source though, instead wait 4 years until something else happens then act on it to make it look like you're doing the right thing
Virtue signalling at its finest
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Because in fairness to Essex John Stephenson opened up a retrospective line and email for people to report abuse in response to the Yorkshire situation which TBH I think is to be applauded, the lad who has come forward was a younger breaking through at the time so probably did not feel he had the voice then to come forward. As an Essex fan I am proud that Stephenson has had the gumption to put his own club under the microscope to make sure the future is paved out in a better way for people joining the club
 
Diamond Lights said:
incredibly powerful stuff from Rafiq's statement. To any person of colour, this is stuff we already knew. Hopefully it will bring about change but doubtful.
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Very powerful. I believe there will be change, but it is going to be incremental, and very, very slow. The risk is that change becomes about changing the optics rather than changing behaviours. [And it's not for people like me to judge whether change happens/is meaningful anyway].

Also Roger Hutton's testimony was very revealing and quite shocking really, if not necessarily surprising.
 
The stuff Rafiq went through isn't unusual. I was called a smelly punjab by my cricket coach. A Paki by teachers and kids at schools. Beaten up for being one of two brown boys in my class. Refused set one for Maths as the teacher can't deal with certain kids until she met me and decided I wasn't what she thought I would be.

It didn't break me then. Many years later it has left me a pretty fragile middle aged middle class man. I have it all but I'm still an anxious wreck at the best of times and it all contributes to it.

Its not banter. It's abuse and it wrecks people's lives.
 
LutonSpurs said:
The stuff Rafiq went through isn't unusual. I was called a smelly punjab by my cricket coach. A Paki by teachers and kids at schools. Beaten up for being one of two brown boys in my class. Refused set one for Maths as the teacher can't deal with certain kids until she met me and decided I wasn't what she thought I would be.

It didn't break me then. Many years later it has left me a pretty fragile middle aged middle class man. I have it all but I'm still an anxious wreck at the best of times and it all contributes to it.

Its not banter. It's abuse and it wrecks people's lives.
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Horrific account Luton. Things will change faster because Rafiq and your good self can pass on these accounts, be heard, believed and respected by everyone for having the courage and dignity to do so.

It all stands in bleak contrast to the bullies and deluded simpletons who hold views of superiority, and those of us who have, from time to time gone quietly along with it.

No more of this. I’ve not heard that term personally for a long time but I tell you mate I’m not going to ever let it pass again.
 
johnola said:
Horrific account Luton. Things will change faster because Rafiq and your good self can pass on these accounts, be heard, believed and respected by everyone for having the courage and dignity to do so.

It all stands in bleak contrast to the bullies and deluded simpletons who hold views of superiority, and those of us who have, from time to time gone quietly along with it.

No more of this. I’ve not heard that term personally for a long time but I tell you mate I’m not going to ever let it pass again.
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My oldest is nearly finished in high school and has never been racially abused. And he goes to a posh school. Progress has been made. And thank you my friend.
 
LutonSpurs said:
The stuff Rafiq went through isn't unusual. I was called a smelly punjab by my cricket coach. A Paki by teachers and kids at schools. Beaten up for being one of two brown boys in my class. Refused set one for Maths as the teacher can't deal with certain kids until she met me and decided I wasn't what she thought I would be.

It didn't break me then. Many years later it has left me a pretty fragile middle aged middle class man. I have it all but I'm still an anxious wreck at the best of times and it all contributes to it.

Its not banter. It's abuse and it wrecks people's lives.
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None of that is right and i'm glad you managed get through it.
There is definitely a place for banter but it is among friends and family, people who know you, people that appreciate your circumstances and limits.
My family and a group of very close friends have few boundaries when it comes each other. Its funny and horrific when we let loose around others that aren't aware of the group dynamics.
My wife took a long time to get comfortable with it.
But none of us would ever subject anyone from outside our group to it, and if they did we would quickly call them out on it.
Thats banter, picking on some random person because of their skin colour, religion or sexual orientation is bigotry and should not be tolerated.
 
LutonSpurs said:
The stuff Rafiq went through isn't unusual. I was called a smelly punjab by my cricket coach. A Paki by teachers and kids at schools. Beaten up for being one of two brown boys in my class. Refused set one for Maths as the teacher can't deal with certain kids until she met me and decided I wasn't what she thought I would be.

It didn't break me then. Many years later it has left me a pretty fragile middle aged middle class man. I have it all but I'm still an anxious wreck at the best of times and it all contributes to it.

Its not banter. It's abuse and it wrecks people's lives.
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So sorry to hear how you were treated at school Luton. It was inexcusable.
 
LutonSpurs said:
The stuff Rafiq went through isn't unusual. I was called a smelly punjab by my cricket coach. A Paki by teachers and kids at schools. Beaten up for being one of two brown boys in my class. Refused set one for Maths as the teacher can't deal with certain kids until she met me and decided I wasn't what she thought I would be.

It didn't break me then. Many years later it has left me a pretty fragile middle aged middle class man. I have it all but I'm still an anxious wreck at the best of times and it all contributes to it.

Its not banter. It's abuse and it wrecks people's lives.
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Awful to hear but as you say your son is rightly not having to deal with that abuse and that's good, hopefully it continues
 
Australia have named a 15-man squad for the first two Ashes Tests against England.

Batter Usman Khawaja is recalled having not played Test cricket since August 2019 when Australia retained the Ashes with a 2-2 draw in England.

All-rounder Mitchell Marsh, who made a match-winning innings in the T20 World Cup final, has not been selected.

The first Test is in Brisbane on 8 December, before a day-night match in Adelaide on 16 December.

Khawaja, 34, will take on Travis Head for a spot in the middle order, with Marcus Harris set to open with David Warner.

Khawaja played in the first three Tests of the 2019 Ashes before he was dropped for the final two matches after defeat at Headingley.

Australia have played only three Test series since then, all at home, beating Pakistan and New Zealand before being stunned 2-1 by India in January, when they lost at the Gabba in Brisbane for the first time since 1988.

Fast bowler Jhye Richardson has also been selected alongside two players yet to make their Test debut - leg-spinner Mitchell Swepson and seamer Michael Neser.

Wicketkeeper-batter Matthew Wade is not included, while opener Will Pucovski also misses out as expected as he recovers from concussion symptoms.

George Bailey, national selection panel chair, said: "After an extended break between Test matches we are looking to build a strong squad mentality across what is an incredibly exciting summer of cricket.

"This group is well balanced to ensure we are prepared for the many challenges of an Ashes series. It has a mix of experienced, proven performers and emerging, developing talent.

"We will take this 15-player squad into the opening Test in Brisbane and the pink ball match in Adelaide, after which we can reassess for the remaining matches."

The third Test is set to start on 26 December in Melbourne, with the fourth in Sydney on 5 January and the final match at Perth on 14 January.

Squad
Tim Paine (c, wk), Pat Cummins, Cameron Green, Marcus Harris, Josh Hazlewood, Travis Head, Usman Khawaja, Marnus Labuschagne, Nathan Lyon, Michael Neser, Jhye Richardson, Mitchell Starc, Mitchell Swepson, Steve Smith, David Warner.
 
In my experience cricket clubs have always been toxic environments. Football clubs, not so much. I reckon the culture of the former is the cause.
 
Gilzeantoscore said:
In my experience cricket clubs have always been toxic environments. Football clubs, not so much. I reckon the culture of the former is the cause.
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Yeh its a funny one because I played Cricket, Football and Rugby growing up the first two till I was late in my 20s to a decent enough level so experiences association sports through fairly structured networks and found cricket by far and away the most racist to a point in Essex it was well known to have nearly all Asian known teams rather than integrated clubs, I knew asian lads from my school who would travel to Woodford and Ilford to join more comfortable teams than local ones because locally we they were a closed shop full of snobbery. Bizarrely in the sport people felt there was most racism we had more of a siege mentality of inclusion and there was more protection for black of asian players, if anyone said anything remotely racist they would get it, and that went for internally and externally and I saw that in alot of clubs and teams, in football it was generally the crowds that went over the mark not those in the game, which is why the Cricket story for me is so sad that it was so prevalent at playing level. Shocking
 
The Bumble stuff is properly vile. Why do we have to socialise at pubs and clubs just to ensure we get the right breaks. This applies in all areas of work. It's a mental culture IMO
 
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