The best album of the 90's - Metallica vs Definitely Maybe

[milo]

We get to the last game of the first round where Metallica take on Oasis.

Metallica - Metallica

Metallica (commonly known as The Black Album) is the eponymously titled fifth studio album by American heavy metal bandMetallica. Released on August 12, 1991, through Elektra Records, it received widespread critical acclaim and became the band's best-selling album. Metallica produced five singles that are considered to be among the band's best-known songs: "Enter Sandman", "The Unforgiven", "Nothing Else Matters", "Wherever I May Roam", and "Sad but True". "Don't Tread on Me" was also issued to rock radio shortly after the album's release, but the song did not receive a commercial single release. The album marked a change in the band's sound from the thrash metal style of the band's previous four albums to a slower one. Metallica promoted the album with a series of tours. In 2003, the album was ranked number 252 on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time.

The recording of Metallica was troubled; the band frequently entered conflicts with Bob Rock, the band's new producer, during production. The album debuted at number one in ten countries and spent four consecutive weeks at the top spot of the Billboard 200, making it Metallica's first album to top album charts. By February 2016, the album spent 363 weeks on the Billboard album chart, making it one of the ten longest running discs of all time. Metallica is one of the best-selling albums worldwide, and the best-selling album in the United States since Nielsen SoundScan tracking began. The album was certified 16× platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) in 2012, and has sold over sixteen million copies in the United States, the first album in the SoundScan era to do so. Metallica played the album in its entirety during the 2012 European Black Album Tour.

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Oasis - Definitely Maybe

Definitely Maybe is the debut studio album by the English rock band Oasis, released on 29 August 1994 by Creation Records. It was an immediate commercial and critical success in the UK, having followed on the heels of singles "Supersonic", "Shakermaker" and "Live Forever". It is the only full album to feature original drummer Tony McCarroll.

Definitely Maybe went straight to number one in the UK Albums Chart on initial release. It was the fastest selling debut album of all time in the UK when it was released and went on to be certified 7× Platinum (2.1 million+ sales) by the BPI.[2] Definitely Maybe marked the beginning of Oasis' success in America, selling over one million copies there, despite only peaking at 58 on the Billboard 200. The album went on to sell over 15 million copies worldwide and brought widespread critical acclaim.

The album, along with Blur's Parklife, helped to spur a revitalisation in British pop music in the nineties and was embraced by critics for its optimistic themes and supposed rebuttal of the downtrodden fatalism evident in the dominant grunge music of the time.[3] Today,Definitely Maybe is regarded as a seminal record of the Britpop scene, and has appeared in many publications' 'best of' lists. The album is also popular among audiences: in June 2006, NME magazine conducted a readers' poll in which it was voted the greatest album of all time.[4]

 

[AuroRaman]

It's a shame for Oasis but Metallica should win this hands down in my opinion. Breathtaking album.


Sitting on my porcelain throne using Fapatalk

 

[Jordinho]

There's only one negative about that Metallica album and that's Bob Rock. Something about his production that doesn't sound right.

 

[Mulletperm]

Very, very difficult for me. The Black album (for me) signalled the end of my love for my favourite band at the time. As Jordinho said the introduction of Bob Rock to the set up seemed to change the whole dynamic of the band's sound and production. I remember being so excited buying it, and then very deflated after listening to it (and trust me I listened to it many times).

I'm also no fan of Oasis, but recognise it's importance to the 90s music scene.

Oasis for me.

 

[Jordinho]

Mötley Crüe's Dr. Feelgood has the same sound as the the Black album. Far fewer good tracks on that one, but even the best ones sound off due to the bricky production.

 

[bennysleftfoot]

Loved the black album. But at the time oasis tapped into a generation of kids and spawned a monster. That album set the benchmark for all other bands trying to follow it.
Not bad for a debut album.

Any other time Metallica win.
Oasis this time.

 

[Baleforce]

the last one?

so Garbage and Earth vs the Wildhearts didn't even qualiify

philistines

 

[scaramanga]

Despite much of the crap churned out by Oasis after this point, Definitely Maybe is a very good album. They took influence from much of the music I was listening to at the time and made a pervasive music scene out of it that pretty much defined the 90s.

Oasis also did some very bad things. They broke music with Knebworth, and they caused a person within my earshot watching Ian Brown at a festival to ask "Who does he think he is, Liam Gallagher?"

I'd grown out of my metal phase long before Metallica came out. I see its worth as an album, but never really listened to it much. I'd probably skip most tracks on shuffle (unfortunately how my available time forces me to listen to music now) whereas there's only a couple of tracks on Definitely Maybe I'd skip.

Cigarettes & Alcohol and Supersonic pretty much define the mid 90s for me, and Slide Away stands up with just about anything else the decade produced IMO.

I suspect they'll lose knowing the demographic here, but Oasis for me.

 

[Baleforce]

I love both of these albums and have had periods of obsession with each, probably won't vote as I don't have a preference

@scaramanga what do you mean by breaking music with Knebworth?

 

[scaramanga]

I love both of these albums and have had periods of obsession with each, probably won't vote as I don't have a preference

@scaramanga what do you mean by breaking music with Knebworth?

Knebworth was the point at which chavs started thinking they were welcome at festivals. It was that second explosion in size that encouraged the like of Embrace and Coldplay (or put the public gaze on them, not sure).

It was the final step in an admittedly already underway process that took guitar music from those who like music and gave it to those who like Stella, Staffordshire Bull Terriers and sportswear.

I didn't go to Knebworth, but I went to Oasis gigs before and after - it was a very different demographic. Reading and Glastonbury festivals were equally ruined.

 

[Baleforce]

Knebworth was the point at which chavs started thinking they were welcome at festivals. It was that second explosion in size that encouraged the like of Embrace and Coldplay (or put the public gaze on them, not sure).

It was the final step in an admittedly already underway process that took guitar music from those who like music and gave it to those who like Stella, Staffordshire Bull Terriers and sportswear.

I didn't go to Knebworth, but I went to Oasis gigs before and after - it was a very different demographic. Reading and Glastonbury festivals were equally ruined.

got ya

yeah, kinda agree, I enjoyed Knebworth but I'm generally not a festival fan, too many hippies and inadequate facilities

 

[milo]

I went to Knebworth. It was awful. They should have split that day and history would be a lot kinder to them.

I agree about Oasis begatting Coldplay. Noel's balladry had a really negative influence on music, as did his mass participation sing-a-longs with nonsensical lyrics, both of which are a feature of Coldplay.

 

[Baleforce]

I went to Knebworth. It was awful. They should have split that day and history would be a lot kinder to them.

I agree about Oasis begatting Coldplay. Noel's balladry had a really negative influence on music, as did his mass participation sing-a-longs with nonsensical lyrics, both of which are a feature of Coldplay.

I thought the Prodigy were awesome, I appreciated them a lot more after seeing them live

 

[parklane1]

Only one winner here for me and that is Metallica, because Nothing Else Matters", and "Enter Sandman", are two of the best songs ever ( imo).

 

[Mulletperm]

Knebworth was the point at which chavs started thinking they were welcome at festivals. It was that second explosion in size that encouraged the like of Embrace and Coldplay (or put the public gaze on them, not sure).

It was the final step in an admittedly already underway process that took guitar music from those who like music and gave it to those who like Stella, Staffordshire Bull Terriers and sportswear.

I didn't go to Knebworth, but I went to Oasis gigs before and after - it was a very different demographic. Reading and Glastonbury festivals were equally ruined.

Absolutely bang on.

 

[milo]

I thought the Prodigy were awesome, I appreciated them a lot more after seeing them live

I was there on the Sunday. I remember nothing about Kula Shaker or Cast. The Charlatans were great and it was quite moving as it was their first gig since Rob Collins had died and Duffy from Primal Scream was filling in on keyboards. It was weird seeing the Manics somewhere so big, I'd seen them a lot early on but wasn't overly keen on Everything Must Go. Oasis filled the space well but I thought that it was just too big and I wasn't really into the big sing-a-long ballads by that stage.

 

[scaramanga]

I was there on the Sunday. I remember nothing about Kula Shaker or Cast. The Charlatans were great and it was quite moving as it was their first gig since Rob Collins had died and Duffy from Primal Scream was filling in on keyboards. It was weird seeing the Manics somewhere so big, I'd seen them a lot early on but wasn't overly keen on Everything Must Go. Oasis filled the space well but I thought that it was just too big and I wasn't really into the big sing-a-long ballads by that stage.

The Manics are still far better in a small environment if you can manage it.

The term "I remember nothing about Kula Shaker or Cast" would be a good description of the mediocrity of a lot of 90s music in general, not just that gig.

 

[Baleforce]

I was there on the Sunday. I remember nothing about Kula Shaker or Cast. The Charlatans were great and it was quite moving as it was their first gig since Rob Collins had died and Duffy from Primal Scream was filling in on keyboards. It was weird seeing the Manics somewhere so big, I'd seen them a lot early on but wasn't overly keen on Everything Must Go. Oasis filled the space well but I thought that it was just too big and I wasn't really into the big sing-a-long ballads by that stage.

i'm glad we did the saturday, better line up imo

 

[milo]

i'm glad we did the saturday, better line up imo

I would have been sorry to have missed the Charlatans. They were one of my favourite bands of the period and it was a pivotal gig in their history.

We also got John Squire joining Oasis on stage on the Sunday, even if it was for the brick awful Champagne Supernova.

 

[milo]

The term "I remember nothing about Kula Shaker or Cast" would be a good description of the mediocrity of a lot of 90s music in general, not just that gig.

I had a pathological hatred for Kula Shaker.

I was ambivalent about Cast. I loved the Las and just saw them as a journeyman continuation without the mad brilliance or songwriting ability of Lee Mavers.