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The Badger's Hole (ITK Thread)

What a dull window it has been for Tottenham. I suppose we shouldn't be surprised after the summer revolution but I was hoping for some activity by now.
 
What a dull window it has been for Tottenham. I suppose we shouldn't be surprised after the summer revolution but I was hoping for some activity by now.

We've only raised £6m so far, so unless we can agree permanent deals for Livermore and/or BAE, I can't see us having the funds to spend.

My hope for this week is that we might sneak Dodo from Roma for LB, and will hold on to Holtby and Capoue.
 
What a dull window it has been for Tottenham. I suppose we shouldn't be surprised after the summer revolution but I was hoping for some activity by now.

Not surprising considering the influx of new faces in the summer added with Tims belief in the academy players. Perhaps a left back (if benny is staying away) and some thought on our CB options (as Kaboul could be the new Ledders), beyond that i agree with Tims comments the other day, we have a dressing room full of talent and technically gifted players, just need to sort out who goes where, what works best (as plan A) and build some momentum..........adding more players wouldn't improve us, we're a little overcrowded as it is.
 
We've only raised £6m so far, so unless we can agree permanent deals for Livermore and/or BAE, I can't see us having the funds to spend.

My hope for this week is that we might sneak Dodo from Roma for LB, and will hold on to Holtby and Capoue.

Financially I don't see why we would have to sell to buy. Although we spent a lot in the summer it was all offset by player sales. So what has happened to the original transfer budget for the summer and this window? The only reason I can see for having to sell before we buy is because we wouldn't want to further increase the size of the squad, which is fair enough.
 
Financially I don't see why we would have to sell to buy. Although we spent a lot in the summer it was all offset by player sales. So what has happened to the original transfer budget for the summer and this window? The only reason I can see for having to sell before we buy is because we wouldn't want to further increase the size of the squad, which is fair enough.

Our transfer budget is tied into the costs of wages probably.
 
Financially I don't see why we would have to sell to buy. Although we spent a lot in the summer it was all offset by player sales. So what has happened to the original transfer budget for the summer and this window? The only reason I can see for having to sell before we buy is because we wouldn't want to further increase the size of the squad, which is fair enough.


We've been selling to buy for about 6 years now (net spend actually being £10m in the black).

That's just the reality of our situation (re funding the stadium).

Our squad is actually the trimmest it has been in a long time. We actually have a pretty tight senior squad of 22 (if you discount Defoe, Gomes and the 4 out on loan - BAE, JL, BK and IF). We've got almost exactly the perfect two players for every position (based on the 4-3-3 the squad was assembled for), except we have 3 RM/RF and only 1 LB.
 
There is no facts to say that we are moving money away for the Stadium is there? part of me wishes we had not spunked the 100m in the summer on players now. Most of them are not producing and we could have put more towards a stadium build. 30m for Lamela, 26m for Soldado, 8m for Capoue. Thats 64m at least we could have kept for the stadium.
 
There is no facts to say that we are moving money away for the Stadium is there? part of me wishes we had not spunked the 100m in the summer on players now. Most of them are not producing and we could have put more towards a stadium build. 30m for Lamela, 26m for Soldado, 8m for Capoue. Thats 64m at least we could have kept for the stadium.

I doubt that we are moving money directly from our player budget to our stadium development one. I would expect the stadium to be funded by the naming rights and long term loans. The costs of those loans will be at part dependent on the shape of the business though which is why we need to be successful but without a massive payroll or debts.
 
Financially I don't see why we would have to sell to buy. Although we spent a lot in the summer it was all offset by player sales. So what has happened to the original transfer budget for the summer and this window? The only reason I can see for having to sell before we buy is because we wouldn't want to further increase the size of the squad, which is fair enough.

And dont forget the Sky TV money, we never seem to dip into that particular pot
 
We've been selling to buy for about 6 years now (net spend actually being £10m in the black).

That's just the reality of our situation (re funding the stadium).

Our squad is actually the trimmest it has been in a long time. We actually have a pretty tight senior squad of 22 (if you discount Defoe, Gomes and the 4 out on loan - BAE, JL, BK and IF). We've got almost exactly the perfect two players for every position (based on the 4-3-3 the squad was assembled for), except we have 3 RM/RF and only 1 LB.

Plus 3 that can cover there in vertonghen, Fryers and Naughton.
 
Vertonghen is a centre back and doesn't like playing there, the one player we don't want to **** off. Naughton is the leagues worst left back. And fryers is a young lad with no experience, a huge risk. All this not even taking into account the fact Rose isn't even good enough to be in our first 11....

I find it staggering how inept, YET AGAIN, this transfer window has been. We're desperate for a left back, if we're going to play 2 up front quite a bit we're desperate for another striker. Meanwhile we're losing some important cover in Capoue (maybe) and maybe even Holtby (maybe).

It's like the season we got Saha for Pav and got rid of Kranjcar and Corulka cover and ****ed up the second half of the season....
 
Vertonghen is a centre back and doesn't like playing there, the one player we don't want to **** off. Naughton is the leagues worst left back. And fryers is a young lad with no experience, a huge risk. All this not even taking into account the fact Rose isn't even good enough to be in our first 11....

I find it staggering how inept, YET AGAIN, this transfer window has been. We're desperate for a left back, if we're going to play 2 up front quite a bit we're desperate for another striker. Meanwhile we're losing some important cover in Capoue (maybe) and maybe even Holtby (maybe).

It's like the season we got Saha for Pav and got rid of Kranjcar and Corulka cover and ****ed up the second half of the season....

Agree about LB

I don't think our squad is at all set up to play 4-4-2, so I'm not bothered by strikers and am keen for us to retain all our CMs. I think now Timmeh has made his point about being the anti-AVB, he might start using a sensible formation again.

I'd compare this more with 2003/4 season where Levy may throw in a cheap short-term player (Dalmat in 03 / Berbatov maybe now?), but isn't going to do any serious work until the permanent coach's role is sorted in the summer.

Our squad is very strong IMO. It just needs protecting this week from folly (re Holtby and Capoue).
 
Agree about LB

I don't think our squad is at all set up to play 4-4-2, so I'm not bothered by strikers and am keen for us to retain all our CMs. I think now Timmeh has made his point about being the anti-AVB, he might start using a sensible formation again.

I'd compare this more with 2003/4 season where Levy may throw in a cheap short-term player (Dalmat in 03 / Berbatov maybe now?), but isn't going to do any serious work until the permanent coach's role is sorted in the summer.

Our squad is very strong IMO. It just needs protecting this week from folly (re Holtby and Capoue).

What do you mean about Tim starting to use a sensible formation again? From what I have seen so far he has played 2 up front but with one always dropping off and out and out wide player on the right with a narrow midfielder on the left. His formation seems very similar to the one that Martin Jol used. Compared to AVB's formation I think Sherwood's has us looking more likely to create goalscoring chances with the added benefit of being less susceptible to the opponent breaking quickly and getting the ball in behind.

Personally I think we can lose at least one of Holtby or Capoue without really weakening our position. They are both OK as squad players but I would imagine that neither of them really want to play this role and in that case sometimes it's better to let the players move (for the right fee) to maintain squad harmony.
 
What do you mean about Tim starting to use a sensible formation again? From what I have seen so far he has played 2 up front but with one always dropping off and out and out wide player on the right with a narrow midfielder on the left. His formation seems very similar to the one that Martin Jol used. Compared to AVB's formation I think Sherwood's has us looking more likely to create goalscoring chances with the added benefit of being less susceptible to the opponent breaking quickly and getting the ball in behind.

Personally I think we can lose at least one of Holtby or Capoue without really weakening our position. They are both OK as squad players but I would imagine that neither of them really want to play this role and in that case sometimes it's better to let the players move (for the right fee) to maintain squad harmony.

I mean a formation which doesn't leave that gaping hole in front of our defence. We need 3 CMs to be able to compete with decent or well-organised sides. I don't mind Soldado and Ade being on the pitch at the same time, but to do so we really need to move Eriksen back and use Ade on the left.

I'd say Capoue is our only cover/competition for Sandro, unless Timmeh plans to bring Livermore back, which is a big downgrade.

I also think Holtby is the only player in our squad other than the two Eriks who I'd fancy to get a decent haul of assists. He needs to mature/calm down a bit, but he's one of the few creative players we've got.
 
I mean a formation which doesn't leave that gaping hole in front of our defence. We need 3 CMs to be able to compete with decent or well-organised sides. I don't mind Soldado and Ade being on the pitch at the same time, but to do so we really need to move Eriksen back and use Ade on the left.

I'd say Capoue is our only cover/competition for Sandro, unless Timmeh plans to bring Livermore back, which is a big downgrade.

I also think Holtby is the only player in our squad other than the two Eriks who I'd fancy to get a decent haul of assists. He needs to mature/calm down a bit, but he's one of the few creative players we've got.

You mean a bit more like we lined up in the last game when for the first time the new coaches had a chance to work with the team for a prolonged period?

I'm guessing that part of the reason for the gap is that we have wanted to avoid our defence being exposed by pace and because of the need to get more men forward to support attacks. This would have been issues one and two for any incoming manager. Hopefully, we will see this evolve now that the Sherwood and his team have had more time with the players.
 
Gianluca Di Marzio ‏@dimarzio
Raiola adesso a Londra, è l'agente di #Capoue: il @sscnapoli prova a spingere con il @SpursOfficial, giornata che può essere decisiva

(Raiola, Capoue's agent is in London trying to do a deal (with us and Napoli), the day (which I believe was yesterday or the day before that) could prove to be decisive.
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Jay (ryantegan) ‏@ryantegan 12h
Well I think it could happen. A deal is agreed if we want it so could be done fast. That said, I dont know if we actually want it #Berba
 
Gianluca Di Marzio ‏@dimarzio
Raiola adesso a Londra, è l'agente di #Capoue: il @sscnapoli prova a spingere con il @SpursOfficial, giornata che può essere decisiva

(Raiola, Capoue's agent is in London trying to do a deal (with us and Napoli), the day (which I believe was yesterday or the day before that) could prove to be decisive.
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Jay (ryantegan) ‏@ryantegan 12h
Well I think it could happen. A deal is agreed if we want it so could be done fast. That said, I dont know if we actually want it #Berba

Am I reading the 2nd part of this right? That it's to do with a Berbatov transfer if we want to move on it.

I think we should incidentally.
 
ryantegan on SC:

I know some fans won't like this but I hear we rejected a bid for siggy in the week

I dont like it. He is becoming more and more peripheral to our team and his stock is going to drop. We might as well get top dollar for some players and re-use in the summer for one quality player or two. I dont think he has the pace or trickery to play out wide and he is not creative enough behind the front man. So its down to just his ability to get in the box and score and hit long rangers. And their is not much of that happening when he plays either.
 
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