WookieD
Didier Zokora
Not sure the FA would allow you to get away with that. In any case, you would struggle to find a club that would accept those terms as it is too disruptive. You definitely cannot terminate a Premiership loan early though.
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Summer transfer thread, AvB window wrap up pg 1527
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Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
If we're competing with Swansea then it doesn't say much for us. I think there is plenty of profit in "denying him an opportunity", the profit being that his progress isn't stalled and he gets another full year of Premier League football under his belt, he's only 20, what's the rush? There's plenty of profit in that deal compared to him watching Kaboul, Vertonghen, Gallas and Dawson play ahead of him and getting the hump and wanting out. I'm not saying he's not good enough to start for us, if you said Kaboul and Caulker start next season then I'd be happy enough but with Vertonghen possibly signing, that pushes him down one spot immediately and I really don't think Harry would go with Caulker over Gallas, Dawson or King if it came down to it.
charlietheyid
Banned
This. We need to sell him. He aint good enough.
For me Nelson (Gone), and King shouldn't really be part of our plans next year
The way I see it
- Kaboul/Gallas would start the PL lineup
- Vertonghen/Dawson as the Cup game lineup with as Vertonghen settles, perhaps taking Gallas spot in main 11
- King as the odd cover/bench option
Loan Caulker for 6 months to Swansea, with option to renew in January (if we have a major injury to one of our 5, we don't renew the loan)
Caulker would benefit from 100% playing time in a team that plays good football, far more than being a bench/squad option for us.
The way I see it
- Kaboul/Gallas would start the PL lineup
- Vertonghen/Dawson as the Cup game lineup with as Vertonghen settles, perhaps taking Gallas spot in main 11
- King as the odd cover/bench option
Loan Caulker for 6 months to Swansea, with option to renew in January (if we have a major injury to one of our 5, we don't renew the loan)
Caulker would benefit from 100% playing time in a team that plays good football, far more than being a bench/squad option for us.
raboner
Banned
this. on form he's probably our best CB. just had a horror run with injuries.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Is a silly statement.
'On form'
So an 'on Form' Dawson is better then an 'on Form' king?
But what if he's not 'On Form'..
WookieD
Didier Zokora
He has all the Premiership experience he needs, he needs to be training with Spurs... At our world class brand new training ground no less. Playing 20 games alongside Spurs players will do mor efor his development this season than playing 40 for Swansea.
raboner
Banned
i guess he'd play about as poorly as king did for the back half of this season.... what's your point?
WookieD
Didier Zokora
No way! Dawson has never been able to lead a line and is suspect to bad positioning. He is one of the best players in the league, maybe further defensively in the air but I wouldn't trust him alongside Kaboul and I wouldn't trust him to marshall a less senior player in an important game. If King was 5 years younger and had the knees, I'd be happy for Daws to play next to him every week, but Dawson shouldn't be our captain, no way. I like the guy, but it isn't a popularity contest.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
20 cup games in mish mash sides compared to 38 games in a very well coached Swansea side against the best teams in the country. We'll just agree to disagree
Rossi22
Pedro Mendes
Tottenham Hotspur's highly-rated young defender Steve Caulker insists that he is open to the possibility of returning to Swansea City next season.
The England Under 21 international played a major role in helping Swansea secure an 11th place finish in their first season in the Premier League.
The 20-year-old has now returned to White Hart Lane, but faces tough competition for places in Tottenham's defence next season.
Having made 26 starts in total for Swansea this season, the composed centre-half believes that he needs to be playing regularly next term to continue his development.
Confidence
"I've loved every minute of my time at Swansea since going over there during pre-season," Caulker told Sky Sports.
"I spent around nine months at the club and I learned things every day, with the gaffer giving all the lads bundles of confidence.
"A big part of my game now is composure and I've managed to add that to my game this year whilst at Swansea.
"The main aim for me is to continue my development and the only way I can see that happening is by playing regularly.
"I'm sure that over the summer I'll sit down and decide what is best for me, but I can't emphasise enough how important it is for me to be playing.
"I've still got a lot to learn and I've learned so much in a year here at Swansea that should it be available again to me next season and Tottenham are happy with it I'd be stupid to say no."
Many top-flight newcomers struggle during their second campaign, but Caulker expects Swansea to repeat their stunning success story next term.
He added: "I'm confident that they will do just as well next season because as the season has gone on we seem to have got stronger.
"Our first game of the season was away at Emirates Marketing Project and we lost 4-0, but in the return leg we managed to beat them 1-0, which is a sign of how far we have come and how much we've learned throughout the season."
The England Under 21 international played a major role in helping Swansea secure an 11th place finish in their first season in the Premier League.
The 20-year-old has now returned to White Hart Lane, but faces tough competition for places in Tottenham's defence next season.
Having made 26 starts in total for Swansea this season, the composed centre-half believes that he needs to be playing regularly next term to continue his development.
Confidence
"I've loved every minute of my time at Swansea since going over there during pre-season," Caulker told Sky Sports.
"I spent around nine months at the club and I learned things every day, with the gaffer giving all the lads bundles of confidence.
"A big part of my game now is composure and I've managed to add that to my game this year whilst at Swansea.
"The main aim for me is to continue my development and the only way I can see that happening is by playing regularly.
"I'm sure that over the summer I'll sit down and decide what is best for me, but I can't emphasise enough how important it is for me to be playing.
"I've still got a lot to learn and I've learned so much in a year here at Swansea that should it be available again to me next season and Tottenham are happy with it I'd be stupid to say no."
Many top-flight newcomers struggle during their second campaign, but Caulker expects Swansea to repeat their stunning success story next term.
He added: "I'm confident that they will do just as well next season because as the season has gone on we seem to have got stronger.
"Our first game of the season was away at Emirates Marketing Project and we lost 4-0, but in the return leg we managed to beat them 1-0, which is a sign of how far we have come and how much we've learned throughout the season."
WookieD
Didier Zokora
20 cup games in mish mash sides compared to 38 games in a very well coached Swansea side against the best teams in the country. We'll just agree to disagree
We have better facilities, better players, better coaches (well, that one's debateable, thank GHod he isn't a striker). The lad is ready to play for us, let him play for us.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
No need to rush him. He's what? 20 years old? Why not give him all the experience he needs before coming back to a Spurs team who by then will probably have no Gallas, King talking about retirement, a better picture of what Dawson's future is like and hopefully a solid back of Kaboul and Vertonghen.
edgey-the-yid
Gheorge Popescu
Mark Klendjian MBE@2drivemark
#skysportsmark I'm being told that RVP WILL NOT sign a new contract at Arsenal in the Forceable future. #AFC need to make top signings
#skysportsmark I'm being told that RVP WILL NOT sign a new contract at Arsenal in the Forceable future. #AFC need to make top signings
edgey-the-yid
Gheorge Popescu
Mark Klendjian MBE@2drivemark
#skysportsmark I'm hearing there is going to be some positive news coming out of #THFC About summer signings. #Remy #verthongan
#skysportsmark I'm hearing there is going to be some positive news coming out of #THFC About summer signings. #Remy #verthongan
NickTB
Kasey Keller
The driving instructor ITK??