Squad

[Lilbaz]

I don’t get what your argument is, i’m just making a statement, not saying its a good thing or a bad thing.

Did you not read the bottom paragraph?

Some of the players we have now might be the next kane, son, bale etc... When kane, son, bale first started playing for us they weren't considered world class.

You saying this is the only time you can remember us not having a stand out player. We finished 17th in the league. When we were 2 points in 8 games nobody was saying modric and bale were world class and would win multiple champions leagues.

 

[Yiddo]

Did you not read the bottom paragraph?

Some of the players we have now might be the next kane, son, bale etc... When kane, son, bale first started playing for us they weren't considered world class.

You saying this is the only time you can remember us not having a stand out player. We finished 17th in the league. When we were 2 points in 8 games nobody was saying modric and bale were world class and would win multiple champions leagues.

No, but we had King who was our star player whilst the others grew into the stars. Modric and Bale went, Lloris and Verts were the next couple whilst Kane and Son become the star players.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I think this is the first time in my lifetime supporting Spurs that we haven’t got that real stand out player who is in a tier of their own playing at close to their best.

No Modric, Berbatov, Kane, Bale, Klinsmann, Son (past his best imo), Ginola, King etc.

I think it’s great if the rest are up a level as a whole
It’s a team game and I’d rather have a group of 8/10s rather than 2 players who 9/10s backed by 7s
You need the collective quality to win the bigger cups

 

[Lilbaz]

No, but we had King who was our star player whilst the others grew into the stars. Modric and Bale went, Lloris and Verts were the next couple whilst Kane and Son become the star players.

King who managed a total of 4 prem games the season before?

 

[Muttley]

Borrowed from elsewhere to visualize

Just shows how everyone is struggling with this

Example - Matthew Craig is 22 years old at this point. No way he could be a List B

I'm also wondering about Scarlett. He was 21 back in March last season. Does the UEFA back date to Jan 1st or something?

If not, both of these could be club trained like Austin. I say "could be" as there's also rules about being out on loan as an U21. I was thinking Ash Phillips would be List B as he's U21 and completed his 2 years registration with Spurs. Maybe not though, because of the loans.

Can't imagine UEFA could find some smart kid in Europe and pay them their average salary of 150k euros and maintain a database on this stuff. That would be UEFA being proactive for a change

 

[Chrissivad]

Im sure its a Jan 1st cut off

 

[Muttley]

Im sure its a Jan 1st cut off

Thanks for that.

Also realising that it wouldn't have even mattered whether Scarlett is list B or club trained. Frank can utilise him away from the "full to the brim" List A and Association Trained pots either way.

I'll always love him for the Elfsborg game regardless what happens next in his career.

 

[Yiddo]

King who managed a total of 4 prem games the season before?

He was still world class, i'm not sure why you want to turn this into a debate, this was something i think and if you don't think the same then i'm sure i will get over it.

 

[Lilbaz]

He was still world class, i'm not sure why you want to turn this into a debate, this was something i think and if you don't think the same then i'm sure i will get over it.

Don't mind me. Been the pub today.
Just think we forget how we felt about the squad at the time harry and poch took over. Instead we look back at it now knowing how good some of those players turned out.
Just hopeing in 10-20 years we look back to now and think wow we had some great players in that squad.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Don't mind me. Been the pub today.
Just think we forget how we felt about the squad at the time harry and poch took over. Instead we look back at it now knowing how good some of those players turned out.
Just hopeing in 10-20 years we look back to now and think wow we had some great players in that squad.

People also forget there was some punts in the that turned into gold
Rose and Walker being prime examples then of course dele

 

[Bullet]

I'm gonna print this out for my kids today so they can keep track of who is playing and what is going on

........................................Vicario
.................................................(Kinsky)
................................................((Austin))

Porro ................Romero............... VdV............. Udogie
(Spence...............Dragusin Danso Takai......................Davies)
((............................Phillips Dorrington Vuskovic........................))

....................................Biss Bentancur
.................................Sarr Gray Bergvall
................................................((Devine))

...............................Deki ((MGW)) Maddison
...................................................((Donley))

Johnson ..................Solanke............ Richie............Tel / Son
(Kudus......................................................................... Odobert Moore)
((Yang.................................Scarlett Lankshear.................................))

 

[Lilbaz]

I'm gonna print this out for my kids today so they can keep track of who is playing and what is going on

........................................Vicario
.................................................(Kinsky)
................................................((Austin))

Porro ................Romero............... VdV............. Udogie
(Spence...............Dragusin Danso Takai......................Davies)
((............................Phillips Dorrington Vuskovic........................))

....................................Biss Bentancur
.................................Sarr Gray Bergvall
................................................((Devine))

...............................Deki ((MGW)) Maddison
...................................................((Donley))

Johnson ..................Solanke............ Richie............Tel / Son
(Kudus......................................................................... Odobert Moore)
((Yang.................................Scarlett Lankshear.................................))

Pretty sure only 11 can start.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Our squad is pretty big isn't . I count 41 senior players. 37 got included in the pre-season squad, with Veliz and Dorrington having already been loaned, and Gil and Craig not being given shirts.

There's probably about 9 more loans to arrange (Gunter, Takai, Phillips, Abbott, Devine, Donley, Moore, Yang, Lankshear) and a few permanents (Gil, Soloman, Craig, Scarlett) before we even get to 1 in 1 outs re Biss, Richy or Davies etc.

 

[Lilbaz]

Our squad is pretty big isn't . I count 41 senior players. 37 got included in the pre-season squad, with Veliz and Dorrington having already been loaned, and Gil and Craig not being given shirts.

There's probably about 9 more loans to arrange (Gunter, Takai, Phillips, Abbott, Devine, Donley, Moore, Yang, Lankshear) and a few permanents (Gil, Soloman, Craig, Scarlett) before we even get to 1 in 1 outs re Biss, Richy or Davies etc.

You do understand senior players are over 21?

 

[Gutter Boy]

You do understand senior players are over 21?

No. They are players involved in the senior squad. Otherwise none of first team regulars Moore, Gray, Bergvall, Odobert and Tel are seniors players.

 

[Lilbaz]

No. They are players involved in the senior squad. Otherwise none of first team regulars Moore, Gray, Bergvall, Odobert and Tel are seniors players.

True. They'd have to be at the club for 2 years to go on the b list. So a few will be considered in the first team.

We have a lot of games this season. For the cl we need 11 players and 9 subs. At the moment the max "senior" players we can have in the squad is 23 as we are short on club trained. We need youngsters otherwise a few injuries we won't be able to put forward a match day squad.

You obsess about this every summer. We are allowed to loan out 9 players abroard and 9 domestic. Yes we need to sell a couple but it's not an issue.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

True. They'd have to be at the club for 2 years to go on the b list. So a few will be considered in the first team.

We have a lot of games this season. For the cl we need 11 players and 9 subs. At the moment the max "senior" players we can have in the squad is 23 as we are short on club trained. We need youngsters otherwise a few injuries we won't be able to put forward a match day squad.

You obsess about this every summer. We are allowed to loan out 9 players abroard and 9 domestic. Yes we need to sell a couple but it's not an issue.

Max is 22 mate
We only have one club trained player

 

[Lilbaz]

Max is 22 mate
We only have one club trained player

22 then. Point stands. 3 injuries we're fudged. Without youth.

 

[Muttley]

You do understand senior players are over 21?

No. They are players involved in the senior squad. Otherwise none of first team regulars Moore, Gray, Bergvall, Odobert and Tel are seniors players.

This one is interesting. At the moment, the club have cleaned up the website and list 33 first team plus Veliz on loan.

However, there are some club optics within this. If we purchase U21's they seem to go straight into the main squad page e.g. Vusokovic. Very few make it out of the U21 list and into the senior squad though. Scarlett and Devine have managed but Abbott, Moore and Donley haven't (yet).

In the end you know that you have to apply common sense as you just know that someone like Moore is more part of the plans than Gil.

The actual true number of 1st team squad players is too many though, whichever way you add it up. Until we see the sales and loans, we can't really put them into PL and UEFA quotas. The next interesting squad hints will come from who is on the plane.

 

[Lilbaz]

This one is interesting. At the moment, the club have cleaned up the website and list 33 first team plus Veliz on loan.

However, there are some club optics within this. If we purchase U21's they seem to go straight into the main squad page e.g. Vusokovic. Very few make it out of the U21 list and into the senior squad though. Scarlett and Devine have managed but Abbott, Moore and Donley haven't (yet).

In the end you know that you have to apply common sense as you just know that someone like Moore is more part of the plans than Gil.

The actual true number of 1st team squad players is too many though, whichever way you add it up. Until we see the sales and loans, we can't really put them into PL and UEFA quotas. The next interesting squad hints will come from who is on the plane.

Arsenal are taking 30. We'll probably take the same. Then make a decision on who stays. Who needs to go on loan.
Those available for sale have probably been decided. Although may depend on bids. Gil is injured at the moment so makes it difficult.