Tbf one of Chiriches' biggest issues is the fact he can hardly win a ball in the air in this league. This aspect is vital and puts us under constant pressure when he plays. Maybe Moreno is more capable but in English football this is a necessity - heck Dier and Vets struggle against some opponents
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Squad for 2015-16 season
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Tbf one of Chiriches' biggest issues is the fact he can hardly win a ball in the air in this league. This aspect is vital and puts us under constant pressure when he plays. Maybe Moreno is more capable but in English football this is a necessity - heck Dier and Vets struggle against some opponents
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Arsenal - Giroud (6'4")
Aston Villa - Benteke (6.3"), Kozak (6'4")
Burnley - Vokes (6'1"),
Chelsea - Costa (6'2"), Drogba (6'2")
Crystal Palace - Sanogo (6'4"), Chamakh (6'1")
Everton - Lukaku (6'4")
Hull - Hernandez (6'1"), Jelavic (6'2")
Leicester - Ulloa (6'3"),
Liverpool - Balotelli (6'3"), Lambert (6'2")
Emirates Marketing Project - Dzeko (6'4"), Bony (6'1")
Saudi Sportswashing Machine - Ameobi (6'5")
QPR - Austin (6'2"), Zamora (6')
Southampton - Pelle (6'4"),
Stoke - Crouch (6'7"), Arnautovic (6'4"), Diouff (6'1"),
Sunderland - Fletcher (6'1"), Wickham (6'3"), Graham (6'1")
Swansea - Gomis (6'1")
West Brom - Anichebe (6'3"),
West Ham - Carroll (6'4"), Sakho (6'1"),
You also peddled this myth as fact during the January transfer thread and I called you out on it then as well.
And the above is just the oppositions possible centre forwards, before we consider their two big centre halves also coming up for corners and set pieces.
It was bad enough watching Chiriches get bullied by 5'11" Saido Berahino at WHL earlier this season. I dread to think how he'd fair against some of those listed above!
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Well Stop! Hammer time so I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
There's a difference between height and being a 'big man'. I'd happily leave Rose to mark Crouch or Giroud for all the aerial ability they have, whereas Zamora is the shortest on that list but one of the most effective in the air
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
In which case you have even less knowledge about football than I gave you credit for!
NikosGrekos
Neale Fenn
Peter "joint most headed goals in the premier league era" Crouch? That Peter Crouch?
Dear me....
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
To be fair to gutter boy he 3MP has only just overtaken Cahill for headed goals and Cahill wasn't a striker and was only 5,10"
Similarly the best player in the air I remember as a kid was Ferdinand. He just seemed to hang in the air
And I wouldn't have rose marking crouch or Giroud as technically there both very good and he has that rashness still to give away a pen despite being excellent for most if the season
Similarly the best player in the air I remember as a kid was Ferdinand. He just seemed to hang in the air
And I wouldn't have rose marking crouch or Giroud as technically there both very good and he has that rashness still to give away a pen despite being excellent for most if the season
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
Grey Fox via SC
Been told that Poch Mitchell and co are only interested in those under 27 unless a VDV esque becomes avaiable. They want to continue the high intensity game and unless someone very special becomes available they will go with youth.
Negotiations have begun with a couple already but my source expects us to keep most of our gunpowder dry until we know what competition we are in next season.
Looks like Pritchard will come back to the fold, but likely we will sell Carol. A lot of Italian interest in 2 of our players source unsure of who.
Players and coaches really believe we can get 4th and see it between us and Liverpool
Been told that Poch Mitchell and co are only interested in those under 27 unless a VDV esque becomes avaiable. They want to continue the high intensity game and unless someone very special becomes available they will go with youth.
Negotiations have begun with a couple already but my source expects us to keep most of our gunpowder dry until we know what competition we are in next season.
Looks like Pritchard will come back to the fold, but likely we will sell Carol. A lot of Italian interest in 2 of our players source unsure of who.
Players and coaches really believe we can get 4th and see it between us and Liverpool
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indianspur
Guest
what??? fricken 3rd is up for grabs....aim high chaps!!!!!!
Not that I disagree with your point, but the point must be made that many on that list aren't first choice. However, it is clear most clubs have a 'big man' as an option. It's not just the ball in the air from hooked clearances, crosses and set pieces that you have to deal with in this league, it's the physicality too, where powerful and aggressive centre-backs and forwards are allowed to get away with a lot more in the way of shoulder-barges, tugs and lunges than they would get away with in Spain or Italy.
By example, I think this is stil the part that Lamela is struggling to get his head around in this league. In Serie A he's pull one of his tricks, get pulled back or barged and get a free-kick. Here the ref waves play on unless its an absolutely blatant foul. The trick here is to unload early and anticipate the foul and position your body so you're either protecting the ball or you will be blatantly fouled and get the free-kick.
It's not just the centre-forwards too. There's plenty of big, physical midfielders to contend with.
Just gone though our list of players and put them in three lists, those that we want to stay, those that we will actively look to move on and those we will listen to offers for.
Those that are staying(Plus empty squad places)
GK Lloris
GK Vorm
Gk
RB Walker
RB Yedlin
CB Vertonghen
CB Fazio
CB Dier
CB
(Will probably have a 5th choice at the club u21 either carter-vickers or Veljković)
LB Rose
LB Davies
CM Bentaleb
CM Mason
CM Ali
CM
CM
(Can see one of those spots at least taken by Stambouli/Capoue)
Rather than list wingers and AM just done 1 list for the 3 positions)
AM Eriksen
AM Chadli
AM Townsend
AM Dembele
AM Pritchard
AM
CF Kane
CF
CF
Listen to Offer:
Chiriches
Paulinho
Lamela
Capoue
Stambouli
(one of the above two to stay)
Carroll
Fredericks
Soldado
Actively Get Rid:
Kaboul
Adebayor
Lennon
Holtby
Those that are staying(Plus empty squad places)
GK Lloris
GK Vorm
Gk
RB Walker
RB Yedlin
CB Vertonghen
CB Fazio
CB Dier
CB
(Will probably have a 5th choice at the club u21 either carter-vickers or Veljković)
LB Rose
LB Davies
CM Bentaleb
CM Mason
CM Ali
CM
CM
(Can see one of those spots at least taken by Stambouli/Capoue)
Rather than list wingers and AM just done 1 list for the 3 positions)
AM Eriksen
AM Chadli
AM Townsend
AM Dembele
AM Pritchard
AM
CF Kane
CF
CF
Listen to Offer:
Chiriches
Paulinho
Lamela
Capoue
Stambouli
(one of the above two to stay)
Carroll
Fredericks
Soldado
Actively Get Rid:
Kaboul
Adebayor
Lennon
Holtby
Or both .. we have been actively looking wide attacking players (based on rumour mill)
A RW purchase of established player +Pritchard might be the end for both Lamela/Townsend if we can get decent offers.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I like having both - two very exciting talents that we can interchange (as due to their age they will be inherently inconsistent).
I'd like to see us maybe get a LWF to understudy Chadli
LutonSpurs
Eric Dear
I think Townsends situation may be different from other windows, he has clearly gained the trust of the coach, may be he can develop mentally and become the player he has the potential to be. I think Poch would want to keep him considering his recent run in the side.