Sick sick world what is wrong with people

[robp135]

But @robp135
You're conflating.
You're putting together statistics to support a conflated view that because men who sexually abuse are 'more likely' to report being abused, and because gay/bisexual men report higher levels of abuse than hetro men, this means gay/bisexual men are more likely to be child abusers????? Come on man.

One of the main reasons gay and bisexual men are more likely to have been abused is because abusers can sense vulnerable people, and despite all the efforts which have seen LGBTQ+ rights advanced, there is still stigma and prejudice openly thrown at those communities.
Your stats on men and abuse are there to be seen.
Your conflation that this somehow makes gay men more likely to be sexual abusers is, to put it politely, a product of fear and prejudice.

Statistically the overall per-capita rate of child sexual abuse perpetration among gay men will be higher than among straight men or the male average.

The sexual orientation itself may be unrelated, but it’s just a statistical probability.

Let me ask you a question. Have you ever been 'afraid' to be naked in a locker room?

No. Tbh it’s the other way around for a while but as I’ve got older I’ve realised that others can be uncomfortable with “ladish” behaviour like that so would not anymore.

I can remember being uncomfortable in a situation at Southgate swimming pool when I was a kid where a man would shower regularly nude and try and strike up conversations with me and other boys. Afraid would be the wrong term though.

Have you ever been 'afraid' to find yourself at a gay bar?

No. I have been to gay bars although not for a long time. My sister in law is gay fwiw.

Do gay men as a community scare you in any way? Genuine questions.

No.

 

[robp135]

Why would you not just have as strict a policy as you can applied to all?

Lack of funding and resources.

 

[robp135]

That just sounds like a cop-out tbh for something you seem to feel strongly about.
If you think the scrutiny should be stricter, you must have an idea as to what element of the assessment would be subject to the stricter scrutiny?
You've mentioned gay men being sexually abused as children as if it is a risk, so it sounds like you are saying that should be something to be looked at in the assessment process?

Yeh that’s fair. From what I am reading there is no formal psychological assessment unless there are red flags in initial evaluations. So id just do that as a standard if there are no females in the equation.

 

[robp135]

Having a female in the equation doesnt counter the potential of the man in the mix potentially being a potential threat.

I think it makes it less likely than a situation without one.

 

[thfcsteff]

Statistically the overall per-capita rate of child sexual abuse perpetration among gay men will be higher than among straight men or the male average.

The sexual orientation itself may be unrelated, but it’s just a statistical probability.



No. Tbh it’s the other way around for a while but as I’ve got older I’ve realised that others can be uncomfortable with “ladish” behaviour like that so would not anymore.

I can remember being uncomfortable in a situation at Southgate swimming pool when I was a kid where a man would shower regularly nude and try and strike up conversations with me and other boys. Afraid would be the wrong term though.



No. I have been to gay bars although not for a long time. My sister in law is gay fwiw.



No.

Fair enough on answers, good to hear from my perspective. On the bold-faced...

...for me, this is very important. I believe it is utterly unrelated.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Lack of funding and resources.

Lol

 

[LutonSpurs]

Lack of funding and resources.

Let's tell all the adopted kids who were abused by straight parents that rob said their safety wasnt worth the cost coz the parents were not gay.

 

[robp135]

Let's tell all the adopted kids who were abused by straight parents that rob said their safety wasnt worth the cost coz the parents were not gay.

You try way too hard.

 

[LutonSpurs]

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[LutonSpurs]

You try way too hard.

Your policy views are irrational and unsubstantiated. And genuinely, there is no effort in countering your idiocy.