If we don't want him it could be because we simply don't rate him any longer.
I really don't see anything that makes think he's more than a bottom half player, a new Agbonlahor.
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Saido Berahino
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If we don't want him it could be because we simply don't rate him any longer.
I really don't see anything that makes think he's more than a bottom half player, a new Agbonlahor.
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
To be fair, i'm sure many expected Kane to be not much better than Lee Barnard or Jamie Slabber two years ago...
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Tell that to Townsend.
Mentality is seemingly just as important to Poch and co as physical or technical qualities. It's essential to teambuilding. It don't think Poch has looked back since the second Berahino went all Odemwingie
I only joined in the discussion replying to a poster saying they don't rate him which as far as Im aware would be referring to his football ability.
Poch and Mitchell clearly rated him on his football ability and I cant see that of changing. If they no longer want him due to question marks on his attitude (which I actually don't buy into) then fair enough but to me that is a separate thing from 'rating' a player....
Baleforce
Arthur Rowe
puts hand up
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
If they rate someone or not is not an either/or categorical thing.
It's about how highly they rate him, how they rate him compared to the players already at the club and their development since last summer, how highly they rate him compared to other targets and at what cost they rate him as a good signing for us.
"They rate him" carries very little meaning on its own. We're obviously not going to sign anyone the transfer committee doesn't rate. But just because they "rate" a player that doesn't mean he's a target for us at this point. They obviously rate Berahino on some level assuming we trust the reports from last summer, but beyond that we know very little.
Maltese Falcon
Niko Kranjcar
Considering the lengths we went to last summer in trying to sign Berahino - to the extent that Poch compared his signing to finding the perfect wife - I would say that he is rated very highly. Of course, many things will be factored in any decision to bid, especially and above all the transfer fee demanded by that joker Peace.
However, as we have seen with Wanyama, Poch is pretty fixed in his targets and willing to wait until he can get them on the right terms. If WBA want to play ball, and it seems relations improved after the loan of Pritchard, then I would say that Berahino to Spurs remains more than a distinct possibility.
However, as we have seen with Wanyama, Poch is pretty fixed in his targets and willing to wait until he can get them on the right terms. If WBA want to play ball, and it seems relations improved after the loan of Pritchard, then I would say that Berahino to Spurs remains more than a distinct possibility.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I'm not sure. I think Poch might only name players to throw the scent on his real under-the-radar targets. It's only happened 3 times:
- Berahinho - to disguise our real interest in Son?
- Batshuayi - to disguise our real interest in Janssen?
- Umtiti - to disguise our real interest in Rode?
Maltese Falcon
Niko Kranjcar
Son was signed with three days or so still left in last summer's window. Yet we still put in at least 3 desperate bids for Berahino on deadline day; and ended up with egg on our face, having fostered bad relations with a rival Premiership club - never a recommended option.
And you are saying this was just to disguise our interest in Son - who we had already signed???!!!
Talk about preposterous conspiracy theories
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Son was signed with three days or so still left in last summer's window. Yet we still put in at least 3 desperate bids for Berahino on deadline day; and ended up with egg on our face, having fostered bad relations with a rival Premiership club - never a recommended option.
And you are saying this was just to disguise our interest in Son - who we had already signed???!!!
Talk about preposterous conspiracy theories
Son was plan A I think and Berahino plan B. I think we only decided to go for Berahino still on the last day when we got a big offer in for Lamela.
Maltese Falcon
Niko Kranjcar
I must say that you are nothing but consistent....
So first it was Son; now Lamela? We had been chasing Berahino all summer and made several bids well before the so called "big offer" for Lamela! In fact, it was those initial bids that apparently tinkled Peace off.
Why can't you just accept that you are way off tangent? As the saying goes... when you're in a hole, stop digging!!
Hashegotthesackyet?
Gudni Bergsson
A cross between David Ike and Chemical Ali.
....not Berahino.
....not Berahino.
Why would receiving an offer on Lamela, knowing we weren't selling, make any difference to buying Berahino?
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
I think it was the opposite. We didn't loan out Lamela because we couldn't secure Berahino.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Throw off the scent? Are you aware of how transfers actually work and the role of agents?
jabbathehut
Luke Young
I think he ends up with us but it seems Peace is messing everyone around with this .He won't want to go to watford they are relegation contenders if look at the second half of last season.This may be a deadline special and we will pay a lot less than 20 mill for him.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I think we'll make another try for Leandro now his value has dropped too.
Finney Is Back
Luka Modric
Did I miss something with us wanting Leandro while Pochettino was in charge? I thought that was way back under Harry (advised by Broomfield)
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Just a random crap player who we were recurrently linked with after one misguided attempt to sign them. Michael Ricketts, Kenwyne Jones, Stuart Downing etc.