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Rule changes in football

Raziel said:
Here's the thing, all the idiots, pundits, etc. bitched about the Fulham decision, but guess what? everyone including the players knew it was a handball/no goal, no question (even Scotty was clear, under current rules, no goal).

So because it's "not fair" we go back to some interpretation flimflam that means refs feel pressured and United/City/Pool get a statistically proven higher number of calls, because that's fair.
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Yep, and where was the outcry after we had one chalked off (last season?) when Moura was pushed and his arm brushed the ball as he fell and we went on to score?
 
Jordinho said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1367834814200623107

The IFAB clarifies handball Law and confirms decision on concussion substitute trials

Clarification of the handball Law and confirmation concerning the launch of concussion substitute trials were the main outcomes of the 135th Annual General Meeting (AGM) of The International Football Association Board (The IFAB), which was held today by videoconference.

Various changes and clarifications to the Laws of the Game were agreed at the AGM, with a particular focus on Law 12 – Fouls and Misconduct.

As the interpretation of handball incidents has not always been consistent due to incorrect applications of the Law, the members confirmed that not every touch of a player’s hand/arm with the ball is an offence. In terms of the criterion of the hand/arm making a player’s body “unnaturally bigger”, it was confirmed that referees should continue to use their judgment in determining the validity of the hand/arm’s position in relation to the player’s movement in that specific situation.

Following this clarification, it is a handball offence if a player:

  • deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball;
  • touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised; or
  • scores in the opponents’ goal:
    • directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper; or
    • immediately after the ball has touched their hand/arm, even if accidental.
Accidental handball that leads to a team-mate scoring a goal or having a goal-scoring opportunity will no longer be considered an offence.

Other clarifications were approved at the AGM for inclusion in the Laws of the Game 2021/22, including to Law 11 (the Law 12 definition for handball, whereby the arm ends at the bottom of the armpit, must be used when judging whether a player is in an offside position) and Law 12 (the offence of using a “trick” to circumvent the Law against the goalkeeper handling the ball from a deliberate kick from a team-mate will apply at goal kicks; the instigator will be cautioned).

The members received an update on the early stages of the trials with concussion substitutes, approved at The IFAB Annual Business Meeting in 2020 (see The IFAB circular no. 21). The IFAB confirmed that the decision to launch the concussion substitute trials was based on the strong recommendation of the Concussion Expert Group which consists of leading medical and football experts who closely examined the applicability of best practice in other sports to football. There was also consultation with, and support from, key stakeholders and The IFAB’s Football and Technical Advisory Panels.

The trials, which are currently expected to continue until August 2022, have already been introduced in international and domestic competitions around the world, with more competitions about to join or having shown an interest in participating.

In the meantime, The IFAB and FIFA will continue to collect, analyse and discuss the football- and medical-related feedback and data that will inform any decisions about potential implementation in the Laws of the Game.
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The problem with this is that it goes back to the “unnatural position” question.

When you’re running, jumping, turning, falling... your arm could be anywhere, completely naturally, to counterbalance the movement of your mass.
 
Raziel said:
Here's the thing, all the idiots, pundits, etc. bitched about the Fulham decision, but guess what? everyone including the players knew it was a handball/no goal, no question (even Scotty was clear, under current rules, no goal).

So because it's "not fair" we go back to some interpretation flimflam that means refs feel pressured and United/City/Pool get a statistically proven higher number of calls, because that's fair.
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So you prefer that players can deliberately aim to hit someone's hand/arm and get a penalty for it? You're happy that defenders have tackle with arms behind their back?

The law is never going to be perfect, but please let's not make it a complete joke.
 
Spur of the moment said:
So you prefer that players can deliberately aim to hit someone's hand/arm and get a pelanty for it? You're happy that defenders have tackle with arms behind their back?

The law is never going to be perfect, but please let's not make it a complete joke.
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It’s gonna get worse with the new rules as their “flexible”
The worst decision I’ve seen yet was Moura handball vs Sheffield last season and they didn’t change the rules after that one
Next season the refs (who can’t really do much right with TV critiquing everything they do) have more leeway to make their own calls again.
your example by the way is the exact reverse of what happens vs fulham
 
LemonadeMoney said:
Wasn't that brought in to stop away teams from parking the bus? So now there's no incentive to attack away from home?
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Home advantage isn't that big a deal any more. You'll just as easily get a home team parking the bus because they've scored away in the first leg.
 
LemonadeMoney said:
Wasn't that brought in to stop away teams from parking the bus? So now there's no incentive to attack away from home?
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That was the initial intent and it seems to work for a while.. But my impression now is that its causing home teams to be cautious in the first leg because they fear the away goal.
 
Blue cards are apparently being introduced. The new card will see players removed from the field for 10 minutes if they commit a cynical foul or show dissent, according to this link:

www.telegraph.co.uk

Blue cards to be introduced for football sin-bins

Exclusive: The new card will see players removed from the field for 10 minutes if they commit a cynical foul or show dissent
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
 
Robbo said:
Blue cards are apparently being introduced. The new card will see players removed from the field for 10 minutes if they commit a cynical foul or show dissent, according to this link:

www.telegraph.co.uk

Blue cards to be introduced for football sin-bins

Exclusive: The new card will see players removed from the field for 10 minutes if they commit a cynical foul or show dissent
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
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The greatest game in the world ( football) and you get these macarons who think they have a good idea, first Varse and now blue cards,
 
A new card for a sinbin makes sense to me. Changes have already been made as the threshold for a yellow or red card has changed over the years. If the threshold for punishment has changed then why shouldn’t the punishment options?
 
tw12yid said:
A new card for a sinbin makes sense to me. Changes have already been made as the threshold for a yellow or red card has changed over the years. If the threshold for punishment has changed then why shouldn’t the punishment options?
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Rules changes that are running away with themselves now and the games become longer with less football being played. Simplified is better. This is just getting out of control now IMO.

"They can't handle VAR"

"Let's give them blue cards now to manage"

Makes sense
 
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