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Ross Barkley
- Thread starter Maltese Falcon
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Half season wonder really. He was poor from January onwards last season and has been highly inconsistent since.
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
Yep and not the Kane variety of one season wonder either.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
My thoughts are that Bartley is a bit of a gamble. He has huge talent but applies it a bit inconsistently. Pochettino could turn him into an incredible player, but it certainly isnt guaranteed. If we can get him for only 5 or 10 million too more than we can sell Sissoko for then it would be worth the gamble IMO. We would instantly be improved with the potential of a very high up side.
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Don't those 'tards know how to use per90 stats?
Still makes Barkley come out better than Sig, but makes him seem far less impressive against the likes of Coutinho.
Those stats seem a strange set of choices too - smells a bit of cherry picking to me.
If Levy's going to buy a young, English player from another PL club for £20m he'll need to bring a firearm to the negotiations, not just his A game.At the every least he improves our squad which as far as I am concerned means he improves "us". Bearing in mind he is English and his age I could see him costing approx £20m. Anymore I would tell them to jog on. As he only has a year left on his contract Levy will bring his "A" game to the negotiating table
In a world where Levy gets stiffed £30m for Sissoko, then the English tax on Barkley will make him something stupid like £40m.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Thought he looked good in their escape from relation season too. Was talked about here as a potential target even back then iirc.
To me he looks like a player that could improve playing next to better players.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
It's an amateur mistake.Some folks who live for stats do that quite a bit.
I doubt those who have an understanding of stats would do so.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
You would be surprised, most are agenda driven and those who do not have agenda think they are perfect, those who are neither ( sadly the minority) think they are a tool no more no less.
milo
Jack L. Jones
But the good thing is that it is easy to see when people make a mistake in presenting them and you can argue on a comparative basis.
People who constantly complain about stats and only want to use observation are frequently oblivious to their inherent biases.
Alaric
Erik Edman
I haven't seen that much of Barkely (really only when he plays against Spurs) but I understand he is considered to have the potential to be a really good player. I do wonder what his mentality is like. Poch has worked wonders with players, but I think we need to bring in players who understand that they are being bought to train not to play and have the desire and strength of will to compete for their place.
That said, I do think he would be worth the risk - if only to play against lower half teams so Spurs can rest starters- if we could get him for the sort of figure you mentioned.
As I always say when people dream up swap deals, how many can you name which have actually happened?
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Again - our considerations tend to be biased towards a player's attitude first, as opposed to his skill. Judging by our past transfer windows, this is how we operate under Poch.
The brutal facts are that Mahrez has had half a good season in the Premier League. He has sulked, he has struggled, he has been far from convincing this year. And he's on 100k a week on top of it - it's correspondingly hard to see him taking a wage cut to come to us.
Then there are the physical considerations. We are moving to Wembley, and if we lose Walker, we will be badly in need of physicality and pace elsewhere in the side (to make up for the loss of these attributes in Walker - Trippier's neither fast nor particularly strong/big). Both are key to our system in particular, and succeeding at Wembley more broadly (due to the extra space we'll need to cover on a regular basis). Okay, most attacking midfielders aren't blessed with both attributes. But Mahrez is neither quick nor strong.
Overall, there are a lot of potential problems with the idea of signing Mahrez. Better to go for a more suitable player, imo.
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
Who would you want us to sign realistically?
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
Realistic suggestions?
NaijaSpurs
Les Ferdinand
So let me get this right, you think Mahrez is not a suitable signing but in the Sissoko thread you have been defending his contribution this season? I find that hard to rationalise
afsoc4life
Dean Richards
Would prefer Mahrez to Barkley. IMHO he is far better. I don't know much about attitude issues but on the pitch, the Algerian takes it.
Yiddo
Jack Jull
I don't think a player like Barkley is needed if we have Eriksen Alli, Son and Lanela to sit behind the striker. A deep lying midfielder who can fit in for Dembele is key imo and Kovacic would be ideal and gives us a different dimension.