Roberto De Zerbi *OFFICIAL*

[Muttley]

I do agree with you on Harry checking out to a point, but I don't think it was managers, it was on the club and the refusal of the club to back the manager.
Eventually he was going for personal records rather than what was best for the team.
Not right in my book, but difficult blame him.

Yeah, I thought he would have gone a year or two earlier to be fair. That was never my issue with Harry. I just think in 2021 when he had the City interest he changed his disposition as a Spurs player. Staying in Miami when we had a new manager through the door and making it all about him didn't sit well with me. Also, that nonsense with his brother as well.

I think we all know the history. We didn't spend so much back then and we certainly didn't buy well.

 

[Muttley]

So when it’s a negative it’s the managers fault (Southgate) but when something good happens it was down to their player (Modric). Why couldn’t our players have seen and corrected what you say Modric spotted? Why do you put it all on Southgate?

Nah, I never put it all on Southgate. You said that, not me. I think the defenders on the pitch could have corrected the Maguire/Young issue but I'm not sure what Hendo could do about what was happening around him to be fair. That overload was on the manager and he didn't change it all game. Southgate picked that formation. Playing a right footed wing back was never going to work. He even had Danny Rose sitting on the bench. He came on towards the end of the game and it looked more balanced. The problem was as much in the middle of the park.

 

[metalgear]

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overcomplicating things? knives out already

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

overcomplicating things? knives out already

Content for content sake, its all a wash

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Agree and disagree, football is still very much a fluid game where scenarios arise where players need to use their own brains and intuition of the game to exceed.

The issue at Spurs is 100% in that area IMO, despite the "leadership" group none of them have a natural flair or feel for the game to show that level of responsibility or intuition. The only one that looks anywhere near that kind of player who has a decent footballing IQ is Gray

Coaches can drill into players things he wants them to do in certain moments and situations, its still down to the player to realise and know when he is in those situations in the heat of a game.

There is still space for freedom of thought, we are terrible at it

I think it’s the coaches drilling it out of them
And I do agree we don’t use our brains much
Let’s see how Cherki fares at city over time with his skills