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Richarlison

I think you can absolutely wonder and question where goals will come from when those that are left have no history of getting goals in the PL.

We are relying on some break out seasons till Christmas, the lack of goals so far isn't just coincidence

Sure. I don’t think it’s coincidence either. But I think it’s just confidence and cohesion with the system. If we get to Christmas and the players still aren’t delivering with it when at other clubs they’ve picked it up more quickly, then I’ll definitely be worried.
 
Agreed. I hope it does. I just said Christmas because I didn’t know exactly how many international breaks and how many actual games there would be beforehand.

But if we say it took Brighton about 6 games to click, and that was on the foundation of Potter playing a not entirely different style and with a settled group of players…I think my patience extends to around 10 games this season to see it really start to come together. Maybe less because we have better and more expensive players. But also the league is so much more competitive now.

But yeah, if we’re still struggling for goals and chances after about 10 games in the league, I am going to be concerned at the rate of progress of this project, and start looking back at the decisions that got us to that point with a different lens.
 
One thing I was thinking about with this situation is how unless we're pro footballers or a similar calibre of well paid athletic endeavour we can’t really apply our own ideas of work to the situation.

At the minute, Richarlison as a professional footballer is not able to do his job by means of not being registered. Presumably even if he was, RDZ wouldn't pick him due do whatever's been going on. I'm sure for most of us, if we weren't having to do the work we're contracted to do but were still getting paid for it, it wouldn't be an awful situation. But I can't see how either club nor player would've wanted the current state of play. It's not good for anyone. People can say exacerbated by social media posting but it's not like he's come out swinging saying "fudge this club", most fans have said much worse in the last few seasons not that it changes anything.

I just can't get a how solution wasn't worked out, paying the wages with no potential to help out the team whilst we look super light in his position. Marmoush might be a striker in some kind of intricate false 9 situation, and Solanke I wanna believe in but it's just not there for him at the minute. It's not about replacing Kane and Son, plenty of teams finished ahead of us without those players, or of a similar calibre. It's an easy thing to say but even if we had Richy out in the cold but Lankshear was around to seize the opportunity, but no, we needed the pure profit to fund Tonali whose current superstar ability is making Bentancur look top class...And whilst we laugh flapping at an injury crisis, who is out that will make this team suddenly click? Kulu, Madders or Xavi aren't fixing this.

I will miss Richy as supporting him was a fun mini game during a relatively dreadful time as a Spurs fan. I love an underdog but it's not just one player who is an underdog, it's the whole team because we're a new level of bad, an embarassing one given the investment. I'll watch tonight but I'm not really sure why, positivity and belief are at the level you'd expect after the back to back league campaigns.

Back to Richy, without wanting to sound too dramatic, he's not even gone, just lingering around when we evidently would do better to have him than not. There's no closure here, just wasted time, money and what could have been a chance for someone else.

Moan out of the way, I've genuinely have not been day drinking I promise! That saud, this club is in a miserable place at the minute. Losing the likable characters like Sarr, Danso, Palhinha, Richy, Spence, who needs fighters when you've got damp sponges 🧽
 
One thing I was thinking about with this situation is how unless we're pro footballers or a similar calibre of well paid athletic endeavour we can’t really apply our own ideas of work to the situation.

At the minute, Richarlison as a professional footballer is not able to do his job by means of not being registered. Presumably even if he was, RDZ wouldn't pick him due do whatever's been going on. I'm sure for most of us, if we weren't having to do the work we're contracted to do but were still getting paid for it, it wouldn't be an awful situation. But I can't see how either club nor player would've wanted the current state of play. It's not good for anyone. People can say exacerbated by social media posting but it's not like he's come out swinging saying "fudge this club", most fans have said much worse in the last few seasons not that it changes anything.

I just can't get a how solution wasn't worked out, paying the wages with no potential to help out the team whilst we look super light in his position. Marmoush might be a striker in some kind of intricate false 9 situation, and Solanke I wanna believe in but it's just not there for him at the minute. It's not about replacing Kane and Son, plenty of teams finished ahead of us without those players, or of a similar calibre. It's an easy thing to say but even if we had Richy out in the cold but Lankshear was around to seize the opportunity, but no, we needed the pure profit to fund Tonali whose current superstar ability is making Bentancur look top class...And whilst we laugh flapping at an injury crisis, who is out that will make this team suddenly click? Kulu, Madders or Xavi aren't fixing this.

I will miss Richy as supporting him was a fun mini game during a relatively dreadful time as a Spurs fan. I love an underdog but it's not just one player who is an underdog, it's the whole team because we're a new level of bad, an embarassing one given the investment. I'll watch tonight but I'm not really sure why, positivity and belief are at the level you'd expect after the back to back league campaigns.

Back to Richy, without wanting to sound too dramatic, he's not even gone, just lingering around when we evidently would do better to have him than not. There's no closure here, just wasted time, money and what could have been a chance for someone else.

Moan out of the way, I've genuinely have not been day drinking I promise! That saud, this club is in a miserable place at the minute. Losing the likable characters like Sarr, Danso, Palhinha, Richy, Spence, who needs fighters when you've got damp sponges 🧽

Not so much Sarr, he had a quiet end to last season, but the others you mentioned there were the main ones pulling us out of the brick.

If RDZ highlighted them as the troublemakers that needed to be moved on I have concerns.
 
Didn't Moyes complain that Everton were skint recently. I think some are reaching with some of these theories about angling for a free

Paying a few players decent money doesn't mean doubling down and doing it for more or adding to the wage bill, they will be governed by their own financial restrictions like anyone else.

Every season seems to have a villain of the piece, this season there have been half a dozen
Typically, when signing a player the buying club will speak to the agent and agree a rough package for the player so that they know if they can agree a fee with the club then they won’t miss out on the player over wages.

It would be extremely rare (almost unthinkable in fact) for Everton to have negotiated and agreed a deal with us without having spoken to the agent to agree personal terms in principle. When a club agrees a fee for a player it is only usually another club coming in, a failed medical or a change of heart and a new contract at the current club that stops the player making the move.
 
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I thought we didn't accept the bids from Turkey or Brazil so it's partly our fault if we didn't as well.

Interesting that Bergvall signed a new contract after wanting to leave, shows there's definitely some team spirit there if he was convinced. We won't offer Richie a new contract but that's for different reasons.
There were stories out there that we accepted a bid from Brazil. Not sure about Turkey.
 
There are people who are, I never said you, I will also say what I see with this also. If this was a 20 goal a season striker the feeling would be different. I know this fanbase and football fans well enough to know that. Hell many wanted us to get Greenwood.
If he was a 20 goal striker we’d either be giving him a big fat new contract or fighting off £60 plus million bids for him. We certainly wouldn’t be in this situation now

As it was we had interest from Everton, a club in Turkey and a club in Brazil, none of which particularly pushed the boat out to sign him. Does that not give us a good indication that Richi is simply not a particularly good player?
 
I think deep down he wants us to win then he just uses our poor record in the cups this century to pretend he doesn’t care.
From what I can make out it depends on whether or not he likes the manager, which has a direct correlation with how boring the football is that they get the team playing….

Really boring = he likes the manager and when we go out of a domestic cup competition it is a good thing

Not boring = he doesn’t like the manager and when we go out of a domestic cup competition it is a bad thing.
 
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