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Richarlison

metalgear said:
right - abuse of players is just unkind. reflects more about upbringing and conceit.

criticizing the player's perfomance - not the man - is fair play. and back to topic.... richy+solanke isn't nearwhere as good as kane+son at their age... and son isn't a natural central attacker. my point is richy for all his goal scoring ability is also the reason why we don't dominate and put away games assuredly
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Who’s said that?
 
metalgear said:
richy+solanke isn't nearwhere as good as kane+son at their age
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Offensively, obviously nowhere near the level of our 2 legends.

Defensively, way better than our 2 legends at their current ages. We've just had back to back seasons conceding over 60 goals in the PL. A well known fact, but fans also forget we've just completed a hatrick of seasons of over 60 goals conceded. Kane and Son were totally complicit in that 22/23 season where we conceded 63 goals in the league. They were shocking defensively.

Now give me a younger Kane and I'll build a very strong case for him defensively. That 16/17 season where Poch conceded 26 goals and Harry was as instrumental as anyone for that lean defensive system whilst also creating and scoring. In some ways, you just know that Richi and Solanke have very strong defensive attributes. We wait to see whether they can score at a higher frequency, even if we know deep down we're unlikely to see another Harry Kane for a while. Frank with a 25 year old Kane would be in another gear.
 
thfcsteff said:
Why would he think that?
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Because that season allen played a 9 and hoddle the 10.
Defoe was a 9 and cantona a 10.

So if he'd rather have defoe in his team than cantona, would he rather have allen than hoddle?

If so fair enough. He scored a load of goals. If not fair enough.
 
Lilbaz said:
Because that season allen played a 9 and hoddle the 10.
Defoe was a 9 and cantona a 10.

So if he'd rather have defoe in his team than cantona, would he rather have allen than hoddle?

If so fair enough. He scored a load of goals. If not fair enough.
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But they're different players. Glenn Hoddle and Clive Allen are totally different. You'd want them both!!! Clive Allen was the better goalscorer for us, but Glenn Hoddle was the greatest midfielder England were too stupid to not build a team around...
 
thfcsteff said:
But they're different players. Glenn Hoddle and Clive Allen are totally different. You'd want them both!!! Clive Allen was the better goalscorer for us, but Glenn Hoddle was the greatest midfielder England were too stupid to not build a team around...
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He said he'd want defoe in his team over cantona.
I'm making the point that they are different types of players.

I'd rather have a world class player for that type though.
 
Lilbaz said:
He said he'd want defoe in his team over cantona.
I'm making the point that they are different types of players.

I'd rather have a world class player for that type though.
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I suspect he meant if you were going to play Cantona in the same role as Defoe. In which case, I'd agree with him.
 
I can't think of a reality in which anyone would pick Defoe over Cantona. The difference in touch, control, ingenuity, creativity, link play even and range of finishes is startling. There isn't even a difference in goal rates. Defoe only scored more than 13 goals twice for us (4 times in total in his career). Cantona did that in 2 out of his 5 seasons for United and in way fewer games played and was otherwise also way more impactful, in build up, and seizing the moment.

There's no world in which a manager would pick Defoe over Cantona.
 
Bishop said:
I can't think of a reality in which anyone would pick Defoe over Cantona. The difference in touch, control, ingenuity, creativity, link play even and range of finishes is startling. There isn't even a difference in goal rates. Defoe only scored more than 13 goals twice for us (4 times in total in his career). Cantona did that in 2 out of his 5 seasons for United and in way fewer games played and was otherwise also way more impactful, in build up, and seizing the moment.

There's no world in which a manager would pick Defoe over Cantona.
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Defoe was massively overrated by spurs fans. He was a bright spark in a mediocre time. His finishing was good but not anywhere close to being mr reliable. He reminded me of a poor mans Andy Cole.
 
Bishop said:
Can we will kill this idea that Richarlison is a decent option for us. He's simply not.

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Thiago at Brentford earlier today had zero service and got 2 goals from his hard work

He held the ball up, made runs into the channel and worked over the CBs

Complete opposite to Richi

Richi is such a poor player, that will score the occasional wonder goal

We have such a poor selection of strikers
 
I’m sure he’ll magically find his form again when Solanke and/or Kolo Miami come back. Why do we always sign the Brazilians with the least amount of technical skill? I know Brazil are at a low ebb at the moment and have been for 20 years but they’ve still got some talent.
 
Jurgen the German said:
I’m sure he’ll magically find his form again when Solanke and/or Kolo Miami come back. Why do we always sign the Brazilians with the least amount of technical skill? I know Brazil are at a low ebb at the moment and have been for 20 years but they’ve still got some talent.
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Perhaps we can part-exchange him for the Brazilian LW at Fulham…

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Richarlson just not good enough. Didnt help at all v Wolves. His hold up play is wiefulnand he spends most of his time on his arse. For a big guy he is weak.
Solanke is better if he ever comes out of the treatment room.
Kolo Muane has caught the Spurs injury virus as soon as he walked into our luxurious training/ treatment facility.
 
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