Rathering intereting news story i thought some of you should read

[clownfoot]

The biggest threat to the NHS is labour getting back in and finishing the job it started and sending us completely over the edge. The sooner the NHS is replaced by a private health service the better.

Do you honestly think the NHS was any good under the 13 years of Labour? i do not think it is much better now and im not defending the tories because i am not one. Honestly the amount of bad things that were going wrong with the NHS and labour knew about it. Do not have time to post all the links to the stories tonight, but im sure you aware of them. Not sure how anyone can defend the NHS.

The NHS might be safer in Labours hand then the tories but when labour had control of the ship the ship was sinking, that had nothing to do with immigration. But mass immigration and what it really costs this country is just another way of how the left and socialists have no idea how to handle money.

Personally speaking, I think the NHS is single handedly the greatest thing about this country. It is being run poorly, and is in need to being salvaged, but I would never want to live in a country with private health care. Just my opinion I suppose.

I think something that could help the NHS would be educating the public about the costs. For example visiting A&E overnight can cost your GP (who now run there own accounts and have to fund within budget) near to £1000

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

What about families in Poland and other EU countries? Have you ever looked into how much they earn back home? They can work 50 hours a week at 2.50 an hour and take home 125 pound a week, as the lady who lives in my block of flats used to do a cleaner. Here she works the same ammount of hours, doing the same job. She takes home 309 pound a week. The company she works for are delighted, no one else wanted the job till she came along!

Polish people, and in many other eastern european countries are used to working long hours. They're also used to being poor. That's why when they come to the UK they are grateful for the money they earn, why they're harder workers than in the UK. In Poland they expect you to work hard for so little. That's why they're hard workers who aren't afraid to take long hours. They're just grateful that they've gone from so little so much!

Like I said in my earlier post, I'm a British lad. I turned 20 no long ago. Quite a few of the people from my school are now on benefits, a few have realised that's not the way to go, but still many have no urge to work what so ever. This is British kids. All of the eastern european kids at school, and pakistani kid as well, have gone STRAIGHT into work without a moments hesitation, or are studying to become a carpenter, bricklayer, painter and decorater, electican, chef, gone to university etc...

Also, if you want the best way to find out about sociological things is to conduct the research yourself. My town has a very high Polish population and when I was doing A levels what I noticed is that if you went down the pub on a weekday between 10am and 3pm guess what language everyone was speaking? ENGLISH. And guess what accent this was? BRITISH. Not just one day, but every day between the same sort of hours. You could hear them talking about their dole money, complaning about the government making them do vountary work. It was laughable!

Yeah I'm proud to be British and I want out Britain as it is. I want a load of scrounging lazy people (who are usually 40+) and I want them to carry on raising more British kids who aren't interested at all in finding a job!!!

No, I don't want a load of eastern europeans coming over here with their high work effort, arriving on time, working long hours, putting elbow grease in and then being grateful for the fact they've got a stable job with a decent wage. Why would I want that?! Now I'm off to read the Daily Mail and, all kinds of Murdoch run tosh and take in all of these (and this is being polite) extremley weak and clearly manipulated statistics, take it in and then get in a panic about the "welfare tourists" in this country, not from my own experience, but because that's what I paid the papers to make me think!

That really sounds to me like a racist rant but your lucky it is about the "British" and no one will mind it. The argument for stopping benefits is clear to all. That way the indigenous population who do nothing and claim benefits would be forced into work.

I dare say i know a lot more immigrants then you or anyone else on this board from doing different jobs and also friendships and meeting more through friends. Great people who i really like but not one of them do i know spends any money in the country they all send it home to latvia. Would be better if they spent it like most Brits do by going out for a meal or a drink or to the cinema and putting money back into the economy.

I wait for the day when the left can discuss immigration without resorting to bringing up the daily mail. It just makes you sound so bigoted to me. Really the discussion should always be centred around economics. Now we have the proof that the BBC can not be trusted from those telegraph articles.

My own experience of how east europeans work is that the young ones in their early 20's can often work physically hard and harder then english workers of the same age and obviously harder then workers 20 years older then them. They will often be prepared to cut corners and take risks and do whatever a boss tells them even if it is dangerous. But that is my real life experience, nothing to do with any newspaper.