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Putin & Russia

DubSpur said:
The Ukraines have been targetting Russian SAMs for the last while including a reported couple of S-400s and S-500s destroyed in Crimea and around the Kerch bridge with the supposed aim of reducing the threat to F16s. They've also reportedly been used to launch storm shadow missiles, giving them more range.

As you say they aren't a game changer but every little helps and it's weapons used together rather than one that will change things.
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Yes, they are trying to thin out the air defence, and I believe they also have received HARM missiles to take out radars, but they require them to at least pop up to high altitude to launch them, where they most likely will be engaged by SAM and Russian fighters, and then scoot away down to low level as fast as possible. Very risky with the current level of threat. F-16s will definitely help, but probably not as much as most people think.
But the biggest threat to f-16 operations, and indeed any military operations the Ukraine want to launch, is a threat they must find an answer to, that they currently haven't, and that is the Orlan-10 surveillance drones. They operate at an altitude beyond the reach of MANPADS, and are to cheap of a target to use conventional SAM's to take down. It's a bad trade to spend a missile worth $4m on a drone costing $10k.
The Russians will no doubt target bases where they find f-16s, using those drones for surveillance. They simply have to find an effective counter measure to them.
 
From the pictures seen of the F-16s in Ukraine, it looked like they were equipped with relatively older AIM-9M/L and AMRAAM-120B air to air missiles. This suggests to me that they will initially be used mainly for air defence against Cruise missiles and Shahed attack drones.
 
Craig_J said:
This is helpful thanks.

I'd tried looking for a map before but they were all not very accurate or user friendly.
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There's liveuamap as well which is decent, but I find it's sometimes too cluttered and was also very slow-loading (seems rectified now).
The guy running the google map I linked is some kind of academic or research fellow-type, not just an armchair redditor.
 
A russian court has fined Google two undecillion roubles.

More than exists in the world, in fact if every leaf was worth 1$ then best estimates say worldwide it would only a tenth of total fine... But it gets stupider, the fine doubles every week /lol
 
Cundies undies said:
A russian court has fined Google two undecillion roubles.

More than exists in the world, in fact if every leaf was worth 1$ then best estimates say worldwide it would only a tenth of total fine... But it gets stupider, the fine doubles every week /lol
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Google should print some monopoly undecilliion rouble money and post it to Putin with a silver dog, hat and ship. Perhaps they can add the Go To Jail card in the envelope.
 
www.youtube.com

Military Summary

This channel provides objective information about the military conflict between Ukraine and the Russian Federation. We condemn any aggression in Ukraine. t.me/militarysummary
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this channel has daily and monthly updates compiling from verfied videos from both sides - not good viewing for ukraine supporters especially in the month of october
 
Should the US be committing another nations youth into battle? Arguably this is a war between Nato/ the US and Russia. Are Ukraine and its people sacrificial to the aims of Nato?
 

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there should be a law against proxy wars. i mean send troops if you want to fight.
also decision makers should be on or near the front lines - not a a continent or ocean away.


SpurMeUp said:
Should the US be committing another nations youth into battle? Arguably this is a war between Nato/ the US and Russia. Are Ukraine and its people sacrificial to the aims of Nato?
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metalgear said:
there should be a law against proxy wars. i mean send troops if you want to fight.
also decision makers should be on or near the front lines - not a a continent or ocean away.
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I can imagine Putin would stand by any such law; he’s big on following the correct international order of things.
 
Mikey10 said:
That’s what happens when you spread your resources too thinly.
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Hopefully the Georgians and Moldovians are taking note too and start pushing out the Russian from their occupied provinces. The Azerbaijanis already did with that Armenian enclave. Unfreezing all Russia's frozen conflicts could do a lot of good all round.
 
Gutter Boy said:
Hopefully the Georgians and Moldovians are taking note too and start pushing out the Russian from their occupied provinces. The Azerbaijanis already did with that Armenian enclave. Unfreezing all Russia's frozen conflicts could do a lot of good all round.
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The Georgians are doing their bit. Last night's crackdown on protests only resulted in larger numbers coming out. Hopefully, that will continue.
 
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