Putin & Russia

[Silly McSilly Face]

If it came to the point of being involved in a conventional land war with the Russians it is highly unlikely it would be taking place with only Britain involved. Where would you envisage that war taking place?

I didn't say it would take place. I'm saying that we are sat here in Europe crying about America not being prepared to provide security guarantees and intervene in a way you would like. And we are no longer capable of defending ourselves. Basically.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

I don't think any serious military analysts thought Russia would take Kyiv in 3 days. Ukraine is a vast country and had a standing army of 700,000 in 2022, which had been battle hardened via fighting separatists in Eastern Ukraine since 2015. Russia initially deployed 200,000 troops and has still taken most of the Donbas.

The British standing army is circa 75,000. That will get chewed through very rapidly in the sort of fighting we've witnessed in Ukraine. The Russians and Ukrainians are losing 100s to a 1000 men every day.

Probably thought they'd get it done in 3 years though?

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

Probably thought they'd get it done in 3 years though?

Depends. If you took away the western military support Kyiv would likely have fallen within months if not weeks. When the US briefly halted military aid not so long ago a whole section of the Ukrainian front collapsed and the Russians gained hundreds of miles in the space of a week. I don't think people realise the rate at which munitions and ammunition are being expended out there. It is only the combined effort of the US and allies keeping Ukraine in the fight at huge economic cost which our government are not being honest about.