Putin & Russia

[Gutter Boy]

I think if Putin is removed or steps aside nothing much will change, Russia and it's people have no idea how democracy works and there could be major civil war between the different groups to grab power.

The Death of Stalin is prophecy not history

 

[SpurMeUp]

It’s already been happening for years. What do you think Russian involvement in Brexit was about, other than helping to break up the EU and the UK?

(I’m assuming you mean Northern Ireland btw.)

Absolutely, but Russia are only reacting to this kind of thing which predates Brexit by more than a decade! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/26/ukraine.usa

Or are you suggesting Russia started it?

 

[Gutter Boy]

nato was set up to protect against the USSR aggression and should have been disbanded when the USSR broke up or at least reformed as the armed for forces of the EU to stay relevant.

iraq war was wrong - no punishments there which probably emboldened putin to attack crimea.

but i agree with you - macarons the lot of them
the biggest losers are fallen men and women in the war, then the taxpayers of the US, UK and Europe who fund it.
the biggest winner is the war industry who will benefit from the needed replenishment of ammo and weapons

Russia tried to join NATO a few times between 1991-4, when it was experimenting with democracy for a while. Sliding doors moment.