10 weeks to hard brexit. Civil unrest within a month of that is likely, especially if Putins trollbots get on the case which they will.
None of the leave options are what were being sold at the last referendum, I personally think an informed vote is more democratic than an uninformed vote. I would hope I would feel the same if I was on the other side but freely admit it may be because "my side" lost.
*Lying on the outcome on a single issue is different to lying in your manifesto imo.
it wont, imo either the EU extend A50 or we revoke it.
If there is another vote I see carnage on the streets.
Look at Remain feeling hard done by losing a vote, imagine what it will be like winning a vote and being told you can't have it and there will be a rerun, I predict bloodshed it will be that bad. The whole landscape will change for good and that will have a long term impact on future voting.
230 votes against her plan pales in terms of the numbers of those that voted to leave so I don’t buy the crazy calls that it means there has to be another vote, for me the votes done.
Won't happen imo. A couple of remain Tories have said they'd do whatever is necessary, (inferring they'd bring the government down) to avoid it. They won't be alone.
I highly doubt carnage on the steets.
What did you vote for? What is your version of brexit?In the real world, lets look back over every general election and look at what was voted for, the result and the manifesto and see if there are three green lights to match, its rare.
Like I said earlier I voted for Brexit like any election, you take parts from all over and you make an informed decision but do I wantto be a part of the mechanics and making that work or do I want to be a politician to make it work, no I dont, no more than when I vote for a government based on making the NHS work, don't baffle me with science, do the work your public has voted for you to do.
In the real world, lets look back over every general election and look at what was voted for, the result and the manifesto and see if there are three green lights to match, its rare.
Like I said earlier I voted for Brexit like any election, you take parts from all over and you make an informed decision but do I wantto be a part of the mechanics and making that work or do I want to be a politician to make it work, no I dont, no more than when I vote for a government based on making the NHS work, don't baffle me with science, do the work your public has voted for you to do.
In the real world, lets look back over every general election and look at what was voted for, the result and the manifesto and see if there are three green lights to match, its rare.
Like I said earlier I voted for Brexit like any election, you take parts from all over and you make an informed decision but do I wantto be a part of the mechanics and making that work or do I want to be a politician to make it work, no I dont, no more than when I vote for a government based on making the NHS work, don't baffle me with science, do the work your public has voted for you to do.
I agree. This is why I think the best compromise is the Norway+ option favoured by a majority of MPs (according to Tory Nick Boles on telly earlier). The vote was to leave the EU. As long as that is done, then that's it. If we join EFTA afterwards, if we have a customs union afterwards, if one of the terms of EFTA is free movement, so be it. We will still have left the European Union and that is all that was on the ballot. This is what our MPs would rather deliver than a no-deal Brexit, so they should just get on and do it.
Do you not think lying about a single issue is different to a manifesto? I do, I understand if you do not.
I agree. This is why I think the best compromise is the Norway+ option favoured by a majority of MPs (according to Tory Nick Boles on telly earlier). The vote was to leave the EU. As long as that is done, then that's it. If we join EFTA afterwards, if we have a customs union afterwards, if one of the terms of EFTA is free movement, so be it. We will still have left the European Union and that is all that was on the ballot. This is what our MPs would rather deliver than a no-deal Brexit, so they should just get on and do it.
That may actually have been easy (relatively) had May not thrown up the ridiculous red lines.
the only reason I said to revoke is so we didnt get no deal via the backdoor, I was suggesting revoke only to allow GE / vote if we could not reach an agreement to extend. - it takes 6 months + for a referendum:To revoke it will need another referendum, they wont just unilaterally decide to do so.
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And lets get it straight I never thought it was going to be easy or a click of the fingers and its done, so all this back and forth and bedlem till we get there was gonna be part of it, so I don't blink with it. Anything worth doing is worth the hard work.
No deal was positioned as project fear by the Leave campaign,What lie are you ref to?
What did you vote for? What is your version of brexit?
I can see why you have come to your conclusions.
Tories were the largest part of the leave vote, the party of neo Liberalism.