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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

johnaliola said:
On mainstream issues, I notice that the assisted dying bill has been resubmitted and is being voted on in parliament today.

I hope they don’t fudge it as I am well aware it could be as cruel as it is intended to be kind.

I have spoken to my MP with my views and experiences but she had strong feelings the other way- which is fair enough!
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And the vote goes against the bill.
I really think they ought to have had this debate and vote on a proper parliament day, rather than a Friday when half the MPs have constituency obligations.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
His mum has had some random death threats online from a twitter account which has since close, its abhorrent and beyond horrible. But the reality is, no one really cares about her, the biggest part is she has been approached by the press, but thats on him and he also listed her address on companies house.

I don't know his circumstances but surely he takes his mum in for the time being till this dies down and moves her back.

I don't think going into London with balaclava'd up men and making threats is the way to calm this stuff down.

Bloke was a drug dealer who was banged up for kidnapping someone who was not the correct person, based on the person they wanted owing him drug money.

Lovely bloke
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I agree his mother should never have been subject to a death threat - or any to any threat. Nor should those brave volunteers with the RNLI who have had their names and addresses published (thereby impacting their families) but I haven't see him calling for his supporters to stop that.

At my mother’s request, she will only use what she needs to safely relocate herself and start again. Once her full relocation has been completed, any remaining funds will be used to instruct a top legal team to deal with what has happened and take the appropriate legal action against the
@DailyMail.
Just how much money is he expecting to raise??
 
Glenda's Legs said:
And the vote goes against the bill.
I really think they ought to have had this debate and vote on a proper parliament day, rather than a Friday when half the MPs have constituency obligations.
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It's so unbelievably cruel. Just means ferrying very sick people to Isle of Man and the Channel Islands, or other civilised parts of the world, now
 
Glenda's Legs said:
I agree his mother should never have been subject to a death threat - or any to any threat. Nor should those brave volunteers with the RNLI who have had their names and addresses published (thereby impacting their families) but I haven't see him calling for his supporters to stop that.

At my mother’s request, she will only use what she needs to safely relocate herself and start again. Once her full relocation has been completed, any remaining funds will be used to instruct a top legal team to deal with what has happened and take the appropriate legal action against the
@DailyMail.
Just how much money is he expecting to raise??
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He’ll raise a lot, there will be people out there who will fall over themselves to give him whatever they have left after paying for Tommys most recent trip to Spain. When it comes to the RNLI volunteers who save lives though they will stay quiet.
 
Starts of as a bit of fun but the Ryan Grim goes on to explain how a lot of these over the top socialist ideas like “anti fatness is anti blackness” and “glp1’s are creating a fat genocide” that get discussed on podcasts and at conferences are being propped up by non profits to undermine the socialist movement and keep the working class divided. Pretty interesting.

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Glenda's Legs said:
And the vote goes against the bill.
I really think they ought to have had this debate and vote on a proper parliament day, rather than a Friday when half the MPs have constituency obligations.
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Yeah - lots of minds changed since the last vote.

I feel sorry for those trapped with miserable painful terminally ill lives, and their families.

The issue with coercion was too tough a nut to crack. Unfortunately that problem remains because people whose families would sooner they were not around are pretty much screwed anyway- now they’ll also have to die both lonely and in pain.
 
Glenda's Legs said:
And the vote goes against the bill.
I really think they ought to have had this debate and vote on a proper parliament day, rather than a Friday when half the MPs have constituency obligations.
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Its a shame it really is, I have seen too many suffer from terminal cancer who wanted to go earlier. I get its a tough one

Ironically, and I know its the extremity of real end of life, but it is clear as day as I have seen it twice that injections at end of life are what often end suffering rather than illness, was absolutely the case with my dad and right thing too
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Its a shame it really is, I have seen too many suffer from terminal cancer who wanted to go earlier. I get its a tough one

Ironically, and I know its the extremity of real end of life, but it is clear as day as I have seen it twice that injections at end of life are what often end suffering rather than illness, was absolutely the case with my dad and right thing too
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Ditto with my mum, although only at the end of three weeks of terrible suffering, and only because I kicked up a massive f ucking stink about what she was being forced to endure.
 
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