Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[ricky2tricky4city]

Devil will be in the detail there, I read its not expanding the drilling or issuing new licences, its speeding up existing, which for the benefit of policy, its no difference to what came before if true. Not sure if that was accurate but was def in the report I read a week ago

I'd read there was already new licences in the pipeline, so as long as there aren't more to come on top, you imagine it was factored into their eco energy plan.

It could be argued that it might trick Trump into thinking we're aligning with him....as he rarely looks into the detail.

(Not that we should care)

 

[Jurgen the German]

I was impressed with Andy Burnham's speech. The fact that he delivered it without any notes or an autocue made it even more impressive. Time will tell whether he's ultimately a success, but it was certainly a strong performance.

I'm less enthusiastic about Ed Miliband being given such a prominent role in government, given his stance on energy policy.

I did have a slight chuckle at the appointment of Angela Rayner as Housing Secretary.

 

[Baleforce]

Healey seems a universally liked appointment

Lets see if he can find that money to increase defence spending...

 

[Seedy Ron]

Healey seems a universally liked appointment

Interesting challenge for him, finding all this money we don't have that he wanted for defence.

Edit - haha, great minds (and fools), Baleforce.

 

[Gutter Boy]

I'm not gonna like this guy either. Idiot.

Burnham to announce plans for new North Sea oil and gas drilling

Drilling has become a controversial topic for the Labour party after the 2024 manifesto pledged to not issue new licences.

www.bbc.com

Absolutely ridiculous. Those dregs won't be out for a decade, by which time there will be no market for them

Might as well pay the population of Barnsley to go back down their pits

 

[Gutter Boy]

Lets see if he can find that money to increase defence spending...

The best way is to re-label green energy and the science budget as defence. Then we easily meet our NATO commitments, while spending it on something worthwhile

 

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[ricky2tricky4city]

Lets see if he can find that money to increase defence spending...

Can't we just invade somewhere like Venezuela and then pipe all their oil for our own benefit and income?

 

[Gutter Boy]

2. He wants to abolish the Department for Science, Innovation and Technology. WTF. If his head is not in that game, he has a massive blind spot. (A worry first floated a couple of weeks back on the rest is politics)

It's been emasculated since universities were moved from there into education. Maybe his idea is a new creation that brings back universities, like the old DIUS (Department for innovation, universities and skills)?

 

[Gutter Boy]

Man, 28, charged with murder of former MP Ann Widdecombe

Joshua Kerry from Rotherham charged over killing of politician whose body was found at her Devon home

www.theguardian.com

Ann Widdecombe was hit on head repeatedly with hammer, court told

Joshua Kerry appears at Westminster magistrates court charged with murder of former MP earlier this month

www.theguardian.com

Wow, that's a twist to the plot - the suspect turns out to be Frank Lampard! Frankie the Tory with a blue on blue hit

 

[Seedy Ron]

Shouldn't laugh at that but it does look exactly like him

 

[Rafa87]

What a coward that guy is, not there is really such a thing as a brave murderer.

To drive all that way in your late twenties to bash an old lady in her 70’s over the head with a hammer repeatedly and end her life. As if it makes him some sort of moral warrior over his views of her politics.

Still lots online about how it’s no big loss, and I really hate this idea that someone’s politics means things like this are somehow more ok than if one stranger does it to another.

Like her politics or not, it’s not the way to deal with things. Hopefully that’s him away for life now and the world is a safer place for it.

 

[LutonSpurs]

Ann Widdecombe was hit on head repeatedly with hammer, court told

Joshua Kerry appears at Westminster magistrates court charged with murder of former MP earlier this month

www.theguardian.com

Wow, that's a twist to the plot - the suspect turns out to be Frank Lampard! Frankie the Tory with a blue on blue hit

Don't think his motives are clear. He looks like a deranged loner of anything. Whether he has far right or far left links is less important than understanding what radicalised him. And whether he was neglected by the system at all before he did this crime.

I am just sad.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Don't think his motives are clear. He looks like a deranged loner of anything. Whether he has far right or far left links is less important than understanding what radicalised him. And whether he was neglected by the system at all before he did this crime.

I am just sad.

I get the sense it's a severe learning disabilities with insufficient care resourcing one, but we'll see

 

[robp135]

When the murderer is right wing it’s because they are right wing and been influenced by right wing influencers and politicians who must be stopped.

When the murderer is left wing it’s not really important what their political affiliations were they just had mental health problems and have been let down by an underfunded system.

You cannot make this brick up

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

You cannot make this brick up

Not being able to make brick up?...now you're simply being unfair.

 

[Gutter Boy]

When the murderer is right wing it’s because they are right wing and been influenced by right wing influencers and politicians who must be stopped.

When the murderer is left wing it’s not really important what their political affiliations were they just had mental health problems and have been let down by an underfunded system.

You cannot make this brick up

Why would anyone with sanity murder a Prisons Minster from 30 years ago? It would be like Tommy Robinson ordering his minions to do a hit on Joyce Quin?

A radicalised antifa would surely target someone like Murdock or Dacre (not that the puppetmasters ever set foot in the country)?

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

Why would anyone with sanity murder a Prisons Minster from 30 years ago? It would be like Tommy Robinson ordering his minions to do a hit on Joyce Quin?

A radicalised antifa would surely target someone like Murdock or Dacre (not that the puppetmasters ever set foot in the country)?

Until its clear I dont think it helps yo speculate either way. I dont get the rush to put a label on it beyond what we know and that it was a horrific murder

 

[Lost Mango]

When the murderer is right wing it’s because they are right wing and been influenced by right wing influencers and politicians who must be stopped.

When the murderer is left wing it’s not really important what their political affiliations were they just had mental health problems and have been let down by an underfunded system.

You cannot make this brick up

I don't spend enough time in those corners of the internet to know if there are as many or as amplified voices of hate on the left as Kirk, Miller, Jones, Yaxley-Lennon, Lowe, Tice, Farage (just the tip of the iceberg).

Is the left as nasty and hateful as some of those on the right (must be some, surely??) or is it another false equivalence trying to 'level' the field?

 

[LutonSpurs]

When the murderer is right wing it’s because they are right wing and been influenced by right wing influencers and politicians who must be stopped.

When the murderer is left wing it’s not really important what their political affiliations were they just had mental health problems and have been let down by an underfunded system.

You cannot make this brick up

I do not think it's true so you did just make it up.