Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[LutonSpurs]

No its not, I think financial discrimination in white classes exists massively, but its not racism.

Class stuff is absolutely real. Middle class and well off brown and black people are no different in their sneering at the working classes.

Its why so many lose their northern (cliche working class) accents when they move up in the world.

 

[Gutter Boy]

How are they individually? What is denied them or in what situation are they subject to racism.

I live a fairly privileged middle class existence, although I have worked extensively across Africa and other communities where I was the only white person for miles, but I can't see what constitutes actual racism against individuals in the white community. I can't think of names they are called that equate to the N word or the P word, I can't recall seeing pubs or shops with the equivalent signs of 'no irish, no p***, no dogs' on the door. I can't recall even when living within the Blackbird Leys riots in Oxford in 1991 any overt issue with white people, just the police.

What constitutes racism against white people on an individual basis based purely on their skin colour rather than their ethnicity (Irish, gypsy, traveller, Romanian, Pole etc) or religion?

Honky in north america, gringo or branquelo in south america, gweilo (white ghost) in China. There are theoretically pejorative terms around in non-white majority areas. But I agree don't think white people particularly suffer racism, almost ever. At worst you get teased about the factor sun cream you need or the lack of rhythm in your dancing.

 

[Lost Mango]

Honky in north america, gringo or branquelo in south america, gweilo (white ghost) in China. There are theoretically pejorative terms around in non-white majority areas. But I agree don't think white people particularly suffer racism, almost ever. At worst you get teased about the factor sun cream you need or the lack of rhythm in your dancing.

We were talking about in the UK. Are there names with as much, or any, history and baggage as those using against nonwhites?

I know there are pejorative terms elsewhere, but many of them (e.g. gringo) aren't about being white as much as they are political, about colonial legacy or anti-american feeling. I was called gringo in Costa Rica in the '90s until they heard me speak and worked out I wasn't a yank. US travellers often had maple leaf flags on their backpacks to pretend not to be gringos'.

 

[Gutter Boy]

We were talking about in the UK. Are there names with as much, or any, history and baggage as those using against nonwhites?

I know there are pejorative terms elsewhere, but many of them (e.g. gringo) aren't about being white as much as they are political, about colonial legacy or anti-american feeling. I was called gringo in Costa Rica in the '90s until they heard me speak and worked out I wasn't a yank. US travellers often had maple leaf flags on their backpacks to pretend not to be gringos'.

I heard some kids of south asian origin call a white guy "an absolute Colin" one time. Maybe it was regional? It felt like it deserved to catch on!

 

[MartyFunkhouser]

I heard some kids of south asian origin call a white guy "an absolute Colin" one time. Maybe it was regional? It felt like it deserved to catch on!

I like that though, an absolute Colin hahaha