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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Starmer looks to be really rattled by Farage.

Not surprised, he really has no ideas or conviction at all. Constantly flip flops and goes whichever way the wind is blowing. Amazing he has such a big majority and there's so many things that need sorting out Labour should be relishing getting things done and transforming the country.
 
Not surprised, he really has no ideas or conviction at all. Constantly flip flops and goes whichever way the wind is blowing. Amazing he has such a big majority and there's so many things that need sorting out Labour should be relishing getting things done and transforming the country.
His popularity among the labour base has tanked, and rightly so. Those borrowed votes are gone too for good. I think some on here had hoped he would pivot away from some of the more divisive rhetoric when he got in office. And in some ways, he has, but mostly in the wrong direction. He is betraying core labour values at every turn now.
 
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His popularity among the labour base has tanked, and rightly so. Those borrowed votes are gone too for good. I think some on here had hoped he would pivot away from some of the more divisive rhetoric when he got in office. And in some ways, he has, but in the wrong direction. He is betraying core labour values at every turn now.

There's still more than 4 years to go. I doubt he'll be the leader going into the next GE - he will have passed the office to either Streeting or someone more from the centre or centre-left of the party by then
 
There's still more than 4 years to go. I doubt he'll be the leader going into the next GE - he will have passed the office to either Streeting or someone more from the centre or centre-left of the party by then
Yes, there is a long way to go but the signs are not good. Streeting is no better IMO.
 
Unfortunately Labour are working for the public sector and specifically against the interests of the aspirational working class outside of that.

Unfortunately there was no choice but to vote for Starmer for any sane person and that is no different today.

No point voting. I want a technocratic party with community values, but it’s too much to ask.

Governments are increasingly invading our lives- it used to be possible to ignore it all.
 
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