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You know what I love about Tony Blair, won three elections by considerable margins and yet now it's difficult to find someone that admits to voting for him.
He was a snake oil salesman, he still is a snake oil sales and he always will be a snake oil sales man.
Just a pity it so many so long to realise it.
 
You know what I love about Tony Blair, won three elections by considerable margins and yet now it's difficult to find someone that admits to voting for him.
He was a snake oil salesman, he still is a snake oil sales and he always will be a snake oil sales man.
Just a pity it so many so long to realise it.
Just an oil salesman now.
 
Blair is just a paid shill for the FF industry. Carbon capture at scale is impossible for the quantities or carbon we are chucking out.
Net zero is another such distraction that has unfortunately taken root.
So if you agree that net zero is a distraction from the real issues you'll agree with the central point that the Paris agreement is driving us in the wrong direction. It's a "scratch the surface", "make it look like we are trying" treaty. But given net zero IS placing us under significant economic strain, including the significant subsidisation of green energy, including not only grid production, but subsidies for the production and taxation of EVs and the installation of insulation and heat pumps, it is absolutely right that we look at this policy framework with the lens of:
- it's based on environment, climate data and technology from about 10/15 years ago.
- Is it going to offer bang for buck, I.e. are we going to hit 2030 having met all of our objectives in the treaty and having invested trillions of £ and STILL have a significant climate/environmental problem. If the answer to this Q. Is "yes" then Trump and Blair and the INCREASING voices across the political spectrum MIGHT JUST HAVE A POINT.
 
So if you agree that net zero is a distraction from the real issues you'll agree with the central point that the Paris agreement is driving us in the wrong direction. It's a "scratch the surface", "make it look like we are trying" treaty. But given net zero IS placing us under significant economic strain, including the significant subsidisation of green energy, including not only grid production, but subsidies for the production and taxation of EVs and the installation of insulation and heat pumps, it is absolutely right that we look at this policy framework with the lens of:
- it's based on environment, climate data and technology from about 10/15 years ago.
- Is it going to offer bang for buck, I.e. are we going to hit 2030 having met all of our objectives in the treaty and having invested trillions of £ and STILL have a significant climate/environmental problem. If the answer to this Q. Is "yes" then Trump and Blair and the INCREASING voices across the political spectrum MIGHT JUST HAVE A POINT.
There is too much in this post to dissect, but just to be clear on my opinion on net zero. Is it a distraction in that it gives permission to the FF industry to push fantasies about offsetting greenhouse gases with some future magical solution like CCS. We have all the solutions we need now. Starmer et al. have bought into such nonsense wholesale, unfortunately. In 20 years' time we will need to be engaging in drawdown.

While Blair might have a point that net zero is gonads, his remedy is also gonads.
 
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So if you agree that net zero is a distraction from the real issues you'll agree with the central point that the Paris agreement is driving us in the wrong direction. It's a "scratch the surface", "make it look like we are trying" treaty. But given net zero IS placing us under significant economic strain, including the significant subsidisation of green energy, including not only grid production, but subsidies for the production and taxation of EVs and the installation of insulation and heat pumps, it is absolutely right that we look at this policy framework with the lens of:
- it's based on environment, climate data and technology from about 10/15 years ago.
- Is it going to offer bang for buck, I.e. are we going to hit 2030 having met all of our objectives in the treaty and having invested trillions of £ and STILL have a significant climate/environmental problem. If the answer to this Q. Is "yes" then Trump and Blair and the INCREASING voices across the political spectrum MIGHT JUST HAVE A POINT.

I took it that net zero is a distraction because absolute zero needs to be the focus. Net zero still implies unnecessary offsetting.
 
I took it that net zero is a distraction because absolute zero needs to be the focus. Net zero still implies unnecessary offsetting.
I agree. And I'd even go further. If your "absolute zero" figure is achieved via solar and wind farms built and maintained via Chinese components in factories using FF and contributing to significant pollutants you are contributing significantly to "above zero" emissions.
 

The replies to this are insane. Tell me where the extreme hate resides and which "culture" is spouting it?
Although clearly that post is designed to goad the great unwashed. We aren't in the EU anymore, so why put something out with the mayor of our capital city stood in fromt of an EU flag. And actually that flag has never represented "being European", given that there are generally 44 independent sovereign states recognised within what is classed as the continent of Europe, of which only just over half are in the EU. Probably more LBC's decision than Khan's although I'm sure he signed up for it, but to an extent you can't put something triggering/goading like that and not expect a load of unwanted to crawl out the swamp. It's what our politics is right now, decisive, and our politicians are as responsible for that as much as anyone.....
 
I agree. And I'd even go further. If your "absolute zero" figure is achieved via solar and wind farms built and maintained via Chinese components in factories using FF and contributing to significant pollutants you are contributing significantly to "above zero" emissions.

No one ever answers this point or what we do when it's not windy or sunny, battery storage is mentioned but there's nothing in existence of the scale needed to power the UK.
 
Although clearly that post is designed to goad the great unwashed. We aren't in the EU anymore, so why put something out with the mayor of our capital city stood in fromt of an EU flag. And actually that flag has never represented "being European", given that there are generally 44 independent sovereign states recognised within what is classed as the continent of Europe, of which only just over half are in the EU. Probably more LBC's decision than Khan's although I'm sure he signed up for it, but to an extent you can't put something triggering/goading like that and not expect a load of unwanted to crawl out the swamp. It's what our politics is right now, decisive, and our politicians are as responsible for that as much as anyone.....
So Khan was at a loose end and thought hey, I know what I’ll do to pass the time, I’ll write an article to goad my detractors and to bring loads of racist abuse my way.
Alternatively you could take what he is saying at face value.
And we absolutely should have high expectations for how people will react. Unfortunately that’s not the reality but don’t blame Khan for the appalling replies. That lies firmly with the bigots.
 
So Khan was at a loose end and thought hey, I know what I’ll do to pass the time, I’ll write an article to goad my detractors and to bring loads of racist abuse my way.
Alternatively you could take what he is saying at face value.
And we absolutely should have high expectations for how people will react. Unfortunately that’s not the reality but don’t blame Khan for the appalling replies. That lies firmly with the bigots.
I mean people could just not be racist for 5 mins of their life..............but yeah........the photo
 
European is a strange concept. I think because they colonised 3 other continents, the term Western is more applicable. I tend to feel Western in Asia or Africa.

I think the only time ive ever felt European is in South America. And that's because Europeans have grown up in safer societies, we all walk round there like space cadets, whereas locals tend to be more permanently on guard. That's my European identity - being a mugging-attracting gringo in south america
 
European is a strange concept. I think because they colonised 3 other continents, the term Western is more applicable. I tend to feel Western in Asia or Africa.

I think the only time ive ever felt European is in South America. And that's because Europeans have grown up in safer societies, we all walk round there like space cadets, whereas locals tend to be more permanently on guard. That's my European identity - being a mugging-attracting gringo in south america

I feel European, up until recently I could roam the continent at my leisure without needing a passport to cross borders.

The languages I’m most familiar with are English, French, Spanish and German.

I need to travel a long way before I have trouble communicating, or feel outside my comfort zone.
 
No one ever answers this point or what we do when it's not windy or sunny, battery storage is mentioned but there's nothing in existence of the scale needed to power the UK.
Because it's just a sheep mentality now, tied up in identity politics. If you question net zero, you're part of the MAGA or other right wing climate denying fraternity or whatever else. And people feel the need to support it without question as a badge of green/left wing honour.

I've worked on infrastructure funding transactions for solar and wind farms in the UK. One of the largest solar infrastructure projects i know of involves a company called Metka EGN, based in Cyprus. They own multiple SPVs across the UK funding solar farms and they're owned by a Greek energy and metals company, specialising in mining and gas extraction.

There's loads of corruption allegations behind the main guy that is a significant owner of the group too.

I've talked on here about how we don't allow mining in this country but will import from south America where European demand for "non local" mining is chopping down the Amazon at an unprecedented rate.....

Green policy in this country and across Europe is a scam. It's total bolloxks.
 
I agree. And I'd even go further. If your "absolute zero" figure is achieved via solar and wind farms built and maintained via Chinese components in factories using FF and contributing to significant pollutants you are contributing significantly to "above zero" emissions.
That's the neo-liberalism option. We could just be grown up and introduce regulation of supply chains in terms of sustainability. The Tories brought China into our energy ecosystem. Ideally GB Energy will renationalise all parts of it, including manufacturing of components (using Port Talbot electric furnace steel)
 
I feel European, up until recently I could roam the continent at my leisure without needing a passport to cross borders.

The languages I’m most familiar with are English, French, Spanish and German.

I need to travel a long way before I have trouble communicating, or feel outside my comfort zone.
That's the whole world now really, outside of a few pariah countries.
 
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