We can't afford to buy 2-3 £15-20 million players every season, we need to find them while they're young and cheap(er) and develop them ourselves. That has never been Harry's game. If they were good enough he would play them, but he never had any long term plans on how to improve individual players. Why would he when he could just go out and buy someone.
yes we cant afford that. thats got nothing to do with harry though and everything to do with levy. harry never bought like that, instead its the complete opposite.
i do agree though...buying for future was not always harry's main thing..yet he did make the sale of some younger players didnt he. the kyles and sandro to name a few...and its funny when you talk about development and think about the clubs he has been at before tottenham and he has played and developed young players through out his career but for some reason it wont happen here? ever?
It's not twisting the truth to say that he's bought a lot of players at the clubs he's been at and a majority has been of the experienced kind. Not necessarily 30-year olds, but established players. His scouting of players mostly relied on tips from agents or other people he knew in football, again not a lie or twisting of anything.
because its easy looking to the future buying the unfinished article when your managing STRUGGLING relegation clubs? what did you expect him to do..scour the earth for cheap players that are young and may not be ready when he fights relegation battles? a problem that requires strong minds as opposed to young inexperienced ones?
its a total guess that about his scouting...its probably true but where do you get that info from...even if its a rumour i wouldnt even contemplate the arrogance that someone that has been coaching at top football for 30 years plus doesnt have a scouting network...and what is scouting if not contacts in the game anyway..be it friends or agents? you seem to think scouting is only or primarily involving a scout. you can scout with your own brother giving you inside information to a kid in his sons school
I find that there's just as much an attempt to twist things positively to portray him as far greater than he is. He got us playing decent football and he got us results, but no more than the quality of the players at his disposal warranted.
this bit is funny a little. he got talented players to perform to a high standard. shoot him dead for that. how many managers do you know that get players to perform higher than their station? not many is the answer. infact some managers like avb make brick work of good players...fact. doesnt mean when they get good players to perform to good player level that it shouldnt be considered an acheivement
Part of what brought about his end was his inability to either identify or settle on targets that fit with Levy's transfer strategy.
this bit here annoys me, but thats my personal problem. i dont think in any shape or form that you are a WUM..not like the 20000 post guy. but if harry has a problem with it then so does avb and so did ramos and so did Jol...all aside from AVB have moaned about Levy and the transfers at some point. so why this is something you isolate to harry and not levy i dont understand
As for rotating, Harry was brick at it. He'd let players go months without 1st team action, then suddenly throw them in. It's no wonder some put in poor performances and that the regulars got burnt out towards the end. I think almost everything that has been aimed at Harry in retrospect was talked about while he was still here. It's just more noticeable now as there's not so much talk about him, but everything negative is picked up on by a select few so they can have the usual "anti-Harry camp" digs.
did you complain when we were wininng? i bet you not. did you ask for players to get dropped when we were winning? who did you ask to get dropped? VDV? modric? bale? lennon? parker? adebayor? BAE? who exactly ...and would you be happy not winning if you did that , clinging to sound rotation policy.
what do you mean by its no wonder people played poorly? it their job to come in and play to within an inch of their lives when they get the chance.
you just said in the parker thread that parker should only come in when sandro is tired and needs a rest. why is parker going to suddenly play spectacularly when just here you're saying its no wonder people played poorly when they came in? and who played poorly can i just ask? who was it that came in and played badly?
i wish we had links to the old board, i can almost bet the mortgage that you didnt complain about burn out when we were winning. i am that certain yours too was a hindsight gig when we were losing...and even then...who from the best first 11 would you have dropped..or did you call for to be dropped?
I don't have any expectations when it comes to backing the manager in the transfer market as I just don't think we have that kind of cash.
okay but yet its harry being indecisive somehow?
Harry was given considerable backing at the beginning and he spent willingly, the only problem was he didn't spend all that well.
oh my daaays, we were bottom of the league and the board hired someone that was used to that kind o position and backed him with money to ensure that they stay up. you think the board are like us fans that have NO money but can chat breeze whenever we want about "we were never going to get relegated"...these are hardcore shrewd business men who understand that sometimes even occur that trump common sense. they probably saw that the mental state was dire under ramos and players confidence was in the garbage disposal.....and then thought..we are going to have to buy the confidence back in. of course harry got backing when the people with money are bricking themselves about possibilities and declining share value. they'll flood their product with money to buy it back to a stable state and make sure that the results reflect investment..which is ..."dont get relegated at all costs"..we reached 8th that year if i remember correctly.......
then there is the claim that harry bought badly....now i think you are firmly in the i never liked harry so things were alot more bleak when he was here type corner..pray tell..which bad buys were they that took us from bottom to 8th, then to 4th and Cl , then to Quarter finals and 5th and then 4th again. who were the brick buys that DID not make a significant impact when they were here?
Maybe he thought he would continue to get that sort of money, but Levy said after the first January window that it was a one-off, we couldn't afford to keep spending like that.
or maybe the board just thought...lets get out of this fox hole of a relegation scrap, give him what he wants. you should know by now that no one tells the board what to do. they gave him money cause they wanted to . because they knew they had to to ensure the kind of result they wanted .
who were the bad buys anyway? kaboul? defoe? palacious? who exactly?
In fact, the money we overspent then would have to come out of future transfer kitties.
did you just make that up?
