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***OMT - Tottenham vs Galatasaray***

I get that some people get self gratification out of blaming others but I see it as pointless, my opinion on how or why a team or player fail to meet my expectations cannot effect the future and no matter how I may justify my opinion it will not change other peoples views once they have become entrenched with them. I'm lucky I suppose in that I always approach any game I play or watch hoping to win, if I don't there's always the next game to look forward to.
And it is probably that attiutude that helped us to achieve almost nothing over the last 30+ years.
 
Finished the first half off and it confirmed my hypothesis that we went to pieces after the second goal.

I conducted my own rather unscientific and subjective method of counting ‘unforced errors’ in possession - they trebled from 0-31 mins to 31-45(+3) mins!
 
And it is probably that attiutude that helped us to achieve almost nothing over the last 30+ years.

Knocking a long, long term Spurs fan for their "attitude" is incredibly rude. There are probably plenty of message boards where a lack of civility is a pre-requisite, but it is hugely unwelcome here. You are the closest thing we have to a troll: maybe you're a teenager but it's tiresome as hell.
 
And it is probably that attiutude that helped us to achieve almost nothing over the last 30+ years.

Yeah nothing to do with not being good enough, attitude can only get you so far, I'm sure Hitler had PMA. Just learn to accept winning and losings games are part of life and worry about what you can change not a game you've got no control over.
 
I’ll probably watch the recording of the game over the weekend but just wondered for those watching on tv if you ever heard the Spirs fans singing? There were times when their fans were quiet and we were loud but I guess it wouldn’t have been picked up - and more so given we were behind a perspex shield.
 
I’ll probably watch the recording of the game over the weekend but just wondered for those watching on tv if you ever heard the Spirs fans singing? There were times when their fans were quiet and we were loud but I guess it wouldn’t have been picked up - and more so given we were behind a perspex shield.
It was hard to hear anything other than a general cacophony of noise and whistling. I didn’t notice our fans.

Hope it was a good trip, despite the pretty ropey way you were all treated on match day.
 
It was hard to hear anything other than a general cacophony of noise and whistling. I didn’t notice our fans.

Hope it was a good trip, despite the pretty ropey way you were all treated on match day.
Just posted in the Lankshear thread in answer to a question about the trip but it wasn’t actually that bad at all. Compared to what I was expecting anyway.
 
For anyone who was there - or maybe not but who knows what happened - it kicked off behind the goal when Osminhem had his first 2nd-goal ruled offside. Was that Spurs fans in with home fans or just non-Galatasaray fans?
 
For anyone who was there - or maybe not but who knows what happened - it kicked off behind the goal when Osminhem had his first 2nd-goal ruled offside. Was that Spurs fans in with home fans or just non-Galatasaray fans?
I’ve seen footage of spurs fans who were clearly Turkish and local
Maybe them…
 
Nice to see after the appalling neanderthal behaviour he experienced before he left.
Agree
As bad as he played some games he had many good ones
And no player intentionally plays bad
I think it shows a real sign of class from him
He made a clear point of coming over to applaud the Spurs fans, after all the Galataasary players had left the pitch, and he did the thumping on the heart thing which did surprise me that he felt Spurs that strongly. I was pleased to see the good reaction that he got from the Spurs fans.
 
I’ll probably watch the recording of the game over the weekend but just wondered for those watching on tv if you ever heard the Spirs fans singing? There were times when their fans were quiet and we were loud but I guess it wouldn’t have been picked up - and more so given we were behind a perspex shield.
Did on the radio
 
I’ll probably watch the recording of the game over the weekend but just wondered for those watching on tv if you ever heard the Spirs fans singing? There were times when their fans were quiet and we were loud but I guess it wouldn’t have been picked up - and more so given we were behind a perspex shield.
You could be heard on the TV as well 👍
 
He made a clear point of coming over to applaud the Spurs fans, after all the Galataasary players had left the pitch, and he did the thumping on the heart thing which did surprise me that he felt Spurs that strongly. I was pleased to see the good reaction that he got from the Spurs fans.

He also made a clear point of hugging his former team mates in the tunnel before the match and them him. I never got the hate he received :confused:
 
He also made a clear point of hugging his former team mates in the tunnel before the match and them him. I never got the hate he received :confused:

Hate on every / any level at a football stadium is a bit odd, unless a player goes out of their way to disrespect the club there's not a cause for it. Perhaps the exception being when said player is involved in dubious off field activities, like Partey (allegedly I suppose) or Zouma factually enacting animal abuse whilst finding it funny.

I remember on the replay of Lankshear's goal / celebration seeing some Galatasaray fans* going absolutely beserk at him screaming who knows what with absolute malice / hatred in their eyes - It's a bit nuts how normalised that is, I guess it seems reasonable when you're in a stand full of thousands of other people but if anything that's even more deranged.

On Sanchez he always seemed like a nice guy who tried. Whilst not justifying certain fans, a minority, going out of their way to slag him off in a fairly toxic way he just wasn't at the level. In terms of fans being pricks I'm not sure if that was what hindered him, they wouldn't say it but I think the players are coached to tune out both positive and negative noise from the crowd and rightly so. Sanchez had a thing where if he made a mistake it seemed to dwell on him and the whole performance fell apart, it was a bit of a quicksand effect, there's no way to objectively measure whether the crowd not being unanimously supportive worsened it, he's not a kid playing at the park needing his dad's support to believe in himself, he's a grown man playing professional football. Fortunately, Dragu even when having a mare seems capable of rescuing a performance and getting back on course.

Anyways it's good to see Davo settling in well over there, I wonder if he'll step it up to a higher profile league again if he keeps it up for a couple of years.

*Not to target / vilify galatasaray fans, but evidently they're pretty full on over there...You get it everywhere..
 
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