glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
Lovren MOTM????
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OMT *** Tottenham Hotspur vs Liverpool ***
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lurker of old
Ramon Vega
We played below par against a team with some great attacking players...and got a draw. Life could be much worse 
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
Good call. Fergie would have.
Would be easy to believe in Alli's case, he looks way off 100% fit
metalgear
Luka Modric
Seriously not surprised given that there are contract renegotiation going on. I am sure not all bids are publicized and it's possible that Eriksen has had his head turned.
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ringo
Tim Sherwood
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
Surely it was Vorm? Unreal
metalgear
Luka Modric
Liverpool didn't have a euro and Copa hangover....
Its about pre season preps.
We will kick on from game #10 onwards like last season.
But by them we would have yielded crucial points.
(yep, just like last season)
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paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
Yes, work will be much more bearable when I get back. Apparantly they were going steam roll us. MAybe they should have have done...but they didnt.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
The problem with Eriksen, apart from how weak he is, remains the fact that with him you get no second effort, none!
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
1st half I thought we were poor, they were 1st to everything we looked lacklustre and maybe should have gone in 2-0 down
2nd half got a foothold, eventually, the equaliser gave us a boost and maybe could have even snatched it, although Vorm made another great save near the end.
Happy with a point considering the 1st half
metalgear
Luka Modric
It will be reported as 3 points loss to Liverpool tomorrow
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paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
tickle my balls with a feather. Appears to go into 50/50s half-hearted and more often than that seems to give up the ghost when he loses the ball
glasgowspur
Andy Thompson
So Liverpool had more shots, and best chances,we were poor yet their CB gets MOTM?
Does anyone at Sky have a fudging clue?
Not a mention yet of manes tackles either
Does anyone at Sky have a fudging clue?
Not a mention yet of manes tackles either
ringo
Tim Sherwood
That's given Poch something to think about. Does Dier/Wanayama really work? Does Onomah add anything? Where are the leaders on the pitch? How do you accommodate Kane and Janssen if you play both?
Where is the pace? Why so many misplaced passes? Should we try and avoid the easy ball back to keeper pass? (as it allows pressing teams to reset and press us around our area.) And a lot more....
Where is the pace? Why so many misplaced passes? Should we try and avoid the easy ball back to keeper pass? (as it allows pressing teams to reset and press us around our area.) And a lot more....
metalgear
Luka Modric
Potential wise would you agree that we have the better side but less prepared for this game?
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paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
Maybe could do with chatting with DL , still need a couple of good additions to the squad.
As many have said, we definitely need a like-for-like for Dembele. Not sure whats happening with Wimmer. But if Onomah is coming on before Son, then we need better in that position
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
I think it was @Bullet that pointed out the nature of our play - good, poor, good, poor, etcetera. I'd actually disagree - we were almost uniformly poor throughout. The first half saw three 50-50s swing their way for every one that we managed to win - the second half saw perhaps two 50-50s go their way for every one we could win. In the event, that proved enough for us to snatch a draw, but that shouldn't hide the fact that we were outplayed, outrun and outfought for long stretches of this game. Passes routinely went astray, balls sent up failed to stick, and Liverpool ran at us with unsettling ease.
Play like that at Anfield and we'll be stuffed - two sides came out onto the field today espousing the same brand of expansive, attacking, pressing football, but only one actually played like it. Against Everton, a sluggish, laboured performance was understandable given that we were away from home and up against two banks of four (or even four defenders and five in midfield) for the majority of the game. Here,it's difficult to stomach given that we were up against the type of team we should at least look fluid against.
Short-term concern is that fitness, team cohesion and sharpness look *way* off, and that f*cking pointless, ludicrously stupid international break coming up where irrelevant national teams play irrelevant f*cking friendlies doesn't help in that regard (also, why are our players falling ill in tandem with each other?). Longer term concern is that, although we filled urgent gaps that needed to be filled, our bench looks threadbare and devoid of game-changers - Liverpool could bring on Origi and Sturridge, while we could respond with Janssen alone. Son wasn't brought on for whatever reason, but a fully fit squad (minus Wimmer and Lloris) should have more options to change a game than throwing on untested Josh Onomah for Kane (and, to be fair to him, he did well enough in his minutes, last-second offside call aside). We lack pace allied with close control on the pitch ,and on the bench - Liverpool had both in abundance, and in Mane it particular, it showed. Problem is, Mane cost a bomb - we won't pay anything like as much for an equivalent player, so we have to hope that N'Koudou (when he arrives ten years from now) will approximate a far more expensive player for a fraction of the price. I'm beginning to come around to the idea of Zaha, to be honest - if nothing else, he brings pace, and we need it, as evidenced by today.
Overall, Vorm did brilliantly well, and really oozed calm and precision today (his reflexes were outstanding, and his decision-making equally lucid). Toby was fantastic, Wanyama did well once he assumed sole responsibility for the defensive midfield, Janssen looked eager and stretched the game a bit, and Lamela showed some badly needed inventiveness and grafted away relentlessly (as usual). Rose was troubled down his flank all game, but ultimately came out on top and got a goal in the bargain. Kane was *really* bad, unable to hold the ball up consistently and giving it away whenever he did manage to get it into his feet - ditto Alli and Eriksen.
Oh, and the ref was absolute sh*te.
Play like that at Anfield and we'll be stuffed - two sides came out onto the field today espousing the same brand of expansive, attacking, pressing football, but only one actually played like it. Against Everton, a sluggish, laboured performance was understandable given that we were away from home and up against two banks of four (or even four defenders and five in midfield) for the majority of the game. Here,it's difficult to stomach given that we were up against the type of team we should at least look fluid against.
Short-term concern is that fitness, team cohesion and sharpness look *way* off, and that f*cking pointless, ludicrously stupid international break coming up where irrelevant national teams play irrelevant f*cking friendlies doesn't help in that regard (also, why are our players falling ill in tandem with each other?). Longer term concern is that, although we filled urgent gaps that needed to be filled, our bench looks threadbare and devoid of game-changers - Liverpool could bring on Origi and Sturridge, while we could respond with Janssen alone. Son wasn't brought on for whatever reason, but a fully fit squad (minus Wimmer and Lloris) should have more options to change a game than throwing on untested Josh Onomah for Kane (and, to be fair to him, he did well enough in his minutes, last-second offside call aside). We lack pace allied with close control on the pitch ,and on the bench - Liverpool had both in abundance, and in Mane it particular, it showed. Problem is, Mane cost a bomb - we won't pay anything like as much for an equivalent player, so we have to hope that N'Koudou (when he arrives ten years from now) will approximate a far more expensive player for a fraction of the price. I'm beginning to come around to the idea of Zaha, to be honest - if nothing else, he brings pace, and we need it, as evidenced by today.
Overall, Vorm did brilliantly well, and really oozed calm and precision today (his reflexes were outstanding, and his decision-making equally lucid). Toby was fantastic, Wanyama did well once he assumed sole responsibility for the defensive midfield, Janssen looked eager and stretched the game a bit, and Lamela showed some badly needed inventiveness and grafted away relentlessly (as usual). Rose was troubled down his flank all game, but ultimately came out on top and got a goal in the bargain. Kane was *really* bad, unable to hold the ball up consistently and giving it away whenever he did manage to get it into his feet - ditto Alli and Eriksen.
Oh, and the ref was absolute sh*te.