Thought we played well. Difference between the two teams in the 2nd half was just the depths they were willing to stoop to.
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OMT Tottenham Hotspur vs Chelsea, WHL, Sat 28 Sept
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Kingdawson
Banned
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
He also slipped a great pass that Defoe didn't take advantage of and broke up countless Cheat$ki attacks throughout the game.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
This! And he has been like this from the moment he arrived. Also slow and too easily knocked off the ball for a man of his size. To think Jenas coped so much flack. At least he could tackle, was athletic and scored occasionally.
Mumorn
Vic Buckingham
i dont think i have ever seen Dembele knocked off the ball easily.
suffolkspur
Ben Thatcher
Great first half pretty poor second half, happy with the point.
I can accept against the top teams more often than not you are not going to be in control for the whole 90, i just thought it was a shame that our performance dropped so far. Part of that was Chelsea stepping it up for sure but when we had the ball our passing wasn't as good 2nd half and we really struggled to hold any kind of possession. Obviously the complete lack of marking on Terry for their goal was disappointing.
I do wonder whether AVB leaves it a little too late too make changes. It worked against Cardiff last game but you could see we couldn't get a foothold in the game for a long time before Chelsea got the equaliser and i was really suprised to see Chadli bought on at that stage. I struggle to see how that was going to get back any kind of initiative.
As it happens our struggles continued until the red card.
I think this games show we are certainly going to be up there. Theres a lot to be positive about and we are currently top of the league. COYS (and swansea).
I can accept against the top teams more often than not you are not going to be in control for the whole 90, i just thought it was a shame that our performance dropped so far. Part of that was Chelsea stepping it up for sure but when we had the ball our passing wasn't as good 2nd half and we really struggled to hold any kind of possession. Obviously the complete lack of marking on Terry for their goal was disappointing.
I do wonder whether AVB leaves it a little too late too make changes. It worked against Cardiff last game but you could see we couldn't get a foothold in the game for a long time before Chelsea got the equaliser and i was really suprised to see Chadli bought on at that stage. I struggle to see how that was going to get back any kind of initiative.
As it happens our struggles continued until the red card.
I think this games show we are certainly going to be up there. Theres a lot to be positive about and we are currently top of the league. COYS (and swansea).
Yiddo
Jack Jull
Did we have the ball in the second half? I'm pretty sure the reason Eriksen faded out was lack of service from behind him.
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Really? Are you sure you're looking at the right player? Demb is super strong on the ball. He might try to go past one too may players but he is seldom knocked off it.
Yiddo
Jack Jull
Yeah he made a key pass and could have made 3 or 4 but would rather **** about with it. He may have done well defensively but he done no more than what Sandro would have done.
Raoul Duke
Gordon Durie
As opposed to speeds us down?
Kingdawson
Banned
eh? what team had a player booked for diving and another one holding his head indicating he had been hit there when the players arms was about half a metre away?
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Considering the newness of our squad we did decently. As usual for us missing those one/two chances after we scored cost us momentum and kept Chel$ki in with a shout. We will only get stronger and better. And once Lamela is suitably settled AVB will unleash the silky beast that he is.
Fast Fingers Fred
Hossam Ghaly
Totally gutted we didn't hold on for the win and let that **** score . Sandro needed second half for me.
Anyways enjoy some gifs I've knocked up .....
Anyways enjoy some gifs I've knocked up .....
shaney
Alan Hutton
Gutted. A game was there to be won which we were more then capable of winning. Shocked anyone is happy with a draw when its a game we should have won. Wrong tactics and subs from AVB today. The worst thing is that ten minutes before they scored, it was obvious they WOULD score, yet we still let it happen.
Im totally gutted.
Oh and Jose is a complete and utter tosspot.
Im totally gutted.
Oh and Jose is a complete and utter tosspot.
Spursalot
Jimmy McCormick
And which team had players diving that weren't booked and a player who gouged his nails into someones face?
King of Norway
Gudni Bergsson
An anticlimax in the end. The first half was good, but we were a complete mess in the second half unfortunately. Just didn't have the ability to calm the game down when Chelsea put us under pressure. We needed to slow down and string a few passes together, but we never managed to do that. Too many hot heads and everything was done at full speed. The only one who managed to keep cool on the ball was Mousa Dembele who I thought was our best player just like last weekend.
Torres' red card probably saved us from defeat, though. A shame we couldn't nick a winner at the end.
Torres' red card probably saved us from defeat, though. A shame we couldn't nick a winner at the end.
spurs' magna carter
Ronnie Rosenthal
Shame we didn't win but it was a game of two halves if I'm honest.
BTW, best it is now our best start to a PL campaign WWLWWD, surpassing Redknapp's start in 2009/10 WWWWLL.
BTW, best it is now our best start to a PL campaign WWLWWD, surpassing Redknapp's start in 2009/10 WWWWLL.
Midfield Maestro
Gheorge Popescu
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Don't forget Torres.. but I agree, I'm also disappointed with just a point, I really hope AVB learns from his mistakes and bring on the correct subs at the correct time.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Eh. Decent point, all things considered. Have to be a wee bit disappointed at the way the second half played out, though. Jose out-thought AVB to an extent: by putting Ramires in the lumbering Mikel's spot, he instantly dispelled most of the superior levels of energy and movement we were mustering, due to Ramires' seemingly limitless stamina, speed and agility carrying him around and into our central duo with ease. And by putting Mata on and putting Hazard central, he forced Dembele and Paulinho to come a bit deeper to counter the overload Chelsea had in front of our back-four (with Lampard, Mata, Oscar and Hazard all drifting into central pockets), which then again played into his hands because Ramires was freed up even more and began bursting through the central midfield with ease.
Because of this, our centre-backs had to watch more players than just Torres, which forced them to stand off rather than stick close, which then led to Torres getting a lot more space to turn and run at them, which led to us conceding space and impetus.
All because of one change. And, to be honest, I never felt AVB got a hold of the situation from that point onwards. Dropping Sandro into that spot in front of the back line felt like the most natural thing to do: sure, we would concede attacking movement, but we wee 1-0 up in a difficult derby game with things starting to go against us, necessitating and anchor, and anyway we could have added Holtby and Defoe later to reintroduce some attacking spark. Sandro would have tracked the runs of Torres better than Daws or Verts did (due simply to his agility and pace) which would have freed up Daws and Verts to concentrate more on stopping Chelsea's playmakers dropping into holes in front of our back four.
But AVB waited too long, which led to us surrendering possession time and again, surrendering our tempo and surrendering the impetus, which led to their goal from a free-kick. And even then, his changes were somewhat bemusing. Holtby wasn't that much more solid than Eriksen was, and Defoe failed to impact the game after being given only fifteen minutes. Chadli for Townsend killed our direct running. This is not because those players aren't good or attack-minded, but because we simply couldn't get the ball often enough to give them options. Ramires would recover it time an time again, which thwarted our nascent attempts at restarting our first-half machismo. That could conceivably have been avoided had Sandro come on.
So, in the end, it felt like we were saved by the sending-off, and Chelsea's increasing vigor would probably have seen us concede again before the end had that card not happened. And after leading 1-0 at half-time, having played some fabulously fluid football, it felt like a bit of a let-down, that.
It is a decent point in the end, and puts us top for a few hours. And certainly, we deserved a draw based on our fantastic first-half performance, so no complaints are needed. But, it is important to take away two lessons from that: namely, that we have a long way to go before we learn the tricks of the trade necessary to become title contenders (Chelsea's riling up of our lads and the resultant motivation it gave them was admirably effective, albeit ****ish), and that our lovable AVB still has a little while to go before he can justifiably claim to be on Jose's level. Hopefully the next time we meet them, AVB will show Jose a few twists of his own, and then we'll be the ones turning it around and starting to batter them.
Because of this, our centre-backs had to watch more players than just Torres, which forced them to stand off rather than stick close, which then led to Torres getting a lot more space to turn and run at them, which led to us conceding space and impetus.
All because of one change. And, to be honest, I never felt AVB got a hold of the situation from that point onwards. Dropping Sandro into that spot in front of the back line felt like the most natural thing to do: sure, we would concede attacking movement, but we wee 1-0 up in a difficult derby game with things starting to go against us, necessitating and anchor, and anyway we could have added Holtby and Defoe later to reintroduce some attacking spark. Sandro would have tracked the runs of Torres better than Daws or Verts did (due simply to his agility and pace) which would have freed up Daws and Verts to concentrate more on stopping Chelsea's playmakers dropping into holes in front of our back four.
But AVB waited too long, which led to us surrendering possession time and again, surrendering our tempo and surrendering the impetus, which led to their goal from a free-kick. And even then, his changes were somewhat bemusing. Holtby wasn't that much more solid than Eriksen was, and Defoe failed to impact the game after being given only fifteen minutes. Chadli for Townsend killed our direct running. This is not because those players aren't good or attack-minded, but because we simply couldn't get the ball often enough to give them options. Ramires would recover it time an time again, which thwarted our nascent attempts at restarting our first-half machismo. That could conceivably have been avoided had Sandro come on.
So, in the end, it felt like we were saved by the sending-off, and Chelsea's increasing vigor would probably have seen us concede again before the end had that card not happened. And after leading 1-0 at half-time, having played some fabulously fluid football, it felt like a bit of a let-down, that.
It is a decent point in the end, and puts us top for a few hours. And certainly, we deserved a draw based on our fantastic first-half performance, so no complaints are needed. But, it is important to take away two lessons from that: namely, that we have a long way to go before we learn the tricks of the trade necessary to become title contenders (Chelsea's riling up of our lads and the resultant motivation it gave them was admirably effective, albeit ****ish), and that our lovable AVB still has a little while to go before he can justifiably claim to be on Jose's level. Hopefully the next time we meet them, AVB will show Jose a few twists of his own, and then we'll be the ones turning it around and starting to batter them.