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Neither Eriksen or Chadli would give us natural width and I also question whether either gives their full back any real protection

One of Emirates Marketing Project or Chelsea will win the league this year with no natural width in their team.
 
I have no idea who is fit, but I would play Robbie alongside Ade if both are fit, alternatively Eriksen ideally in a number 10 role.

Funny how we have Siggy, Eriksen and Chadli who all claim their best position is behind one or two strikers and we only have one natural right winger and in Andros one natural left winger (although he can play on the right where he tends to cut in).

We should have decided what formation/style of play to adopt and buy players accordingly, instead we have ****ed away the best part of 100 million pounds

When did they do that?
A recent Eriksen interview said he prefers playing in the centre of midfield.
I doubt Chadli has any pretensions of being anything other than a hazard/ronaldo/bale powerful inside out winger but with a lot less skill.
 
When did they do that?
A recent Eriksen interview said he prefers playing in the centre of midfield.
I doubt Chadli has any pretensions of being anything other than a hazard/ronaldo/bale powerful inside out winger but with a lot less skill.

Actually Chadli came out this season and complained about not being played in his natural position behind a striker, I cannot believe I was the only person that read that.

We bought Siggy from Swansea after he spent the whole season playing behind a striker.

Eriksen plays in the number 10 role for his country and most of the time in that position at Ajax.
 
One of Emirates Marketing Project or Chelsea will win the league this year with no natural width in their team.

And yet when I watch both teams play I see different players giving them width. Maybe the difference is that they have a number of intelligent players that provide lots of movement, coming inside and also going down the flanks as well
 
The funny thing is, I actually would like to play Eriksen in central midfield alongside someone like Sandro if it meant playing 2 strikers up front
 
That's a bit disingenuous.

He plays in a two as part of a 4-2-3-1 which, tactically is far more like being one of a midfield 3 than it is part of a traditional midfield 2. He's also clearly the "box to box" one of those two rather than the "sitter".

Seeing as AVB was after Moutinho (or a similar player) that would suggest he saw Paulinho in that role too.

I suggest you re-read what you write before criticising others.

You state that AVB saw Moutinho or Paulinho "in that role too". Seeing as how they are completely different type of players, how exactly does that make them suitable for the same role?
 
COYS!!! i reckon fourth is done. so no pressure for me when watching from now on. just going to sit back and try to enjoy this..hope the lads play some good football and win.
 
The funny thing is, I actually would like to play Eriksen in central midfield alongside someone like Sandro if it meant playing 2 strikers up front

Midfield -> Lennon - Sandro - Eriksen - Chadli with Lennon and Chadli given orders to use the width.

Ade - Soldado up front

1 up front against Southampton at WHL is not enough (our midfield doesn't score/create enough on their own, and we might as well try and play Soldado into form)

Eriksen is our Modric replacement, time to get him into the middle and controlling the games more.
 
I would rather we continue with our £26m striker and get him firing again so that next season he can hit the ground running? Or have you decided he has no future at Spurs?

...Soldado has no future at Spurs, IMO...did you see him whiff again multiple times at Benfica? how many times do we need to see him miss the net???
COYS
 
I suggest you re-read what you write before criticising others.

You state that AVB saw Moutinho or Paulinho "in that role too". Seeing as how they are completely different type of players, how exactly does that make them suitable for the same role?

Why would you think AVB would want two first choices for the same position? More pertinently, why do you think I would think that.

The rest of my post is describing a position Paulinho plays in that's totally different to the one being mentioned. I then state that another player (who plays in a the position being mentioned, not the one I'm describing) was also on AVB's shopping list.

Finally, I make the point that AVB clearly sees Paulinho in the position I and Scolari do, not (for at least the third time) the one Moutinho plays in.

I'm beginning to think that you're being deliberately obstinate in order to try and make a point that doesn't exist. If not then you'll have to get someone else to explain it to you as I've phrased it as simply as I can.
 
Tbh i got what Scaramanga was saying...but i just didn't agree ;)

It's not like he targeted a Moutinho type and Paulinho type in the same summer.
 
We're likely to have a new manager over the summer, yet we're still talking about AVB? Some still have a massive hard on for him.

This will be a tough game, we know they can play. The biggest concern is our defense. Injuries haven't helped, but a solid defensive foundation has been missed. We need one to build from.
 
Why would you think AVB would want two first choices for the same position? More pertinently, why do you think I would think that.

The rest of my post is describing a position Paulinho plays in that's totally different to the one being mentioned. I then state that another player (who plays in a the position being mentioned, not the one I'm describing) was also on AVB's shopping list.

Finally, I make the point that AVB clearly sees Paulinho in the position I and Scolari do, not (for at least the third time) the one Moutinho plays in.

I'm beginning to think that you're being deliberately obstinate in order to try and make a point that doesn't exist. If not then you'll have to get someone else to explain it to you as I've phrased it as simply as I can.

I agree with KD. If he was so keen on a Moutinho type of player, then why did he sign a box to boxer instead? If he wanted to pair both Moutinho AND Paulinho, in the back two in your formation, then where was he going to play Sandro and why buy Capoue? If he was so keen on a deep ball playing sitter to pair with Pauli, why didn't we buy one of those?

Whichever way you look at it, the transfer policy made little sense.
 
I agree with KD. If he was so keen on a Moutinho type of player, then why did he sign a box to boxer instead? If he wanted to pair both Moutinho AND Paulinho, in the back two in your formation, then where was he going to play Sandro and why buy Capoue? If he was so keen on a deep ball playing sitter to pair with Pauli, why didn't we buy one of those?

Whichever way you look at it, the transfer policy made little sense.

You need more than 11 players to get through a season. Two top players for each position might be overkill, but a core of 15-16 to rotate is absolutely necessary. Having different types to choose from is also convenient.
 
No pressure from now on in. Let's hope some of our new boys from last summer gets a few goals. I'm starving to see Lamela get some games under his belt - any news on his injury?
 
You need more than 11 players to get through a season. Two top players for each position might be overkill, but a core of 15-16 to rotate is absolutely necessary. Having different types to choose from is also convenient.

Exactly! =D>
Plus there's the fact that Willian was nearly bought as well.
I wonder what both the Pirate and KD were saying at the time last summer when these transfers were being mooted and then finalised; were they saying then that the transfer policy "made little sense"?

I suspect that KD might have raised questions but I doubt that the Pirate did and is as usual taking his mate hindsight on a "AVB was **** at everything" joyride.

Happy to be proved wrong though ;)
 
You need more than 11 players to get through a season. Two top players for each position might be overkill, but a core of 15-16 to rotate is absolutely necessary. Having different types to choose from is also convenient.

I agree that would be sensible. But why not buy a single deep lying ball player then? Especially if that was what the manager particularly wanted! Not to have that option at all is just daft.
 
Exactly! =D>
Plus there's the fact that Willian was nearly bought as well.
I wonder what both the Pirate and KD were saying at the time last summer when these transfers were being mooted and then finalised; were they saying then that the transfer policy "made little sense"?

I suspect that KD might have raised questions but I doubt that the Pirate did and is as usual taking his mate hindsight on a "AVB was **** at everything" joyride.

Happy to be proved wrong though ;)

What has Willian got to do with the debate about the deep lying back two in Scaras formation? As usual you try and characterise everything as being black and white, pro or anti AVB, when this has absolutely nothing to do with that at all.
 
I agree that would be sensible. But why not buy a single deep lying ball player then? Especially if that was what the manager particularly wanted! Not to have that option at all is just daft.

Who knows what AVB wanted this summer, he might have changed his mind for all we know. Considering the kind of midfielders we did buy in his time here that seems likely.

How many deep lying playmakers of the required quality are there though? It's the same with left backs, strikers and 'in the hole' players. The very few that really stand out are already at top clubs and emerging ones are almost immediately snapped up at inflated prices. Even unproven ones cost a lot of money, but for every Modric there are loads that never manage to take the next step.
 
Exactly! =D>
Plus there's the fact that Willian was nearly bought as well.
I wonder what both the Pirate and KD were saying at the time last summer when these transfers were being mooted and then finalised; were they saying then that the transfer policy "made little sense"?

I suspect that KD might have raised questions but I doubt that the Pirate did and is as usual taking his mate hindsight on a "AVB was **** at everything" joyride.

Happy to be proved wrong though ;)
I don't really know where i said it made little sense now? in fact, i don't even see where i implied that? in fact, i don't even know where i spoke about it?

My post was in reply to scaramanga's post about AVB needing a moutinho type player. That may be the case, but he clearly didn't think it was a priority. Under avb's helm we've brought in Dembele, Sigurdsson, Capoue, paulinho, Eriksen, Holtby and dempsey who are all central players (some central attacking and some deeper central players) and only 1 could be considered creative...and he's not a deep lying playmaker type that we need anyway.
 
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