*** OMT Tottenham Hotspur v Brighton & Hove Albion FC ***

[Glenda's Legs]

Thing is the refs are only human and things happen at 100 mph and they only have the benefit of seeing it at ground level from the angle they are looking at. So this comes down to VAR and how it is deployed. Right now its deployed in terms of "clear and obvious error" i.e. only the most blatant stuff gets overrruled. What you're saying is that VAR should have a role in ensuring rules are applied consistently according to what has actually happened rather than the ref's ground level interpretation of what has happened based on his view of the incident in real time. That would obviously require a complete revamp of the purpose of VAR.

It would require removing the 'clear and obvious' benchmark, which yes, changes its remit from what it is currently, but I don't think there would be much 'revamping' as such? Keep it for the same incidents that it covers now (for the time being) but just apply the law rather than 'should the referee have seen it and therefore made a different call'.
If anything it might help speed up decisions, as the VAR officials 'only' have to rule on whether it was a penalty/red card etc, rather than then having to interpret the referee's view of the incident.
Can't see it happening however.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Only seen the MOTD highlights
Seems to be comments there that we were great and should have won
The stats don’t really show that
Was we good?

 

[Silly McSilly Face]

The way Kudus was pulled up for the lightest of touches in the back - when through on goal - and moments later Odobert was barged over with full force and no foul leading to their goal.

We don’t dramatise fouls as well as other sides - see Udogie who took a high kick and didn’t fall to the ground. Verses us almost scoring in the box and their defender feigning a head injury and getting a fk for a high challenge.

Then Bergval not popping the ball out when Rici was lying on the turf with no out ball. We are still a bit naive and these key moments counted against us yesterday.

This is a different issue to the refs though and one i've banged on about before. We lack players with the streetwise nature and aggression of peak Dele and Lamela. Lamela getting shot by a sniper in the crowd and getting Man U reduced to ten is the sort of ingredient needed to elevate what is a semi decent top half type team to a really competitive team at the very higest level. Used to absolutely love Lamela. He'd be goading and winding up the other side game. I used to watch him off the ball all the time he'd be chatting sh*t to the other team's players, shruggling his shoulders or making little gestures ....rile them up, get them off their rythmn. We are still too nice as you say

 

[Jordinho]

Only seen the MOTD highlights
Seems to be comments there that we were great and should have won
The stats don’t really show that
Was we good?

I missed most of the first half thankfully, but second half we were dominant without really creating much in terms of chances. Lots of crosses and corners that weren't quite good enough. A few slip ups which allowed Brighton to counter.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

VAR has been a massive disappointment to me, I was strongly in favour of as I had hoped it would remove all the poor decisions which seemed to favour those "in the club" teams.
Instead of reducing the number of controversial incidents it has increased them. Now virtually every game has a debatable call by the ref or the boys in the box.
Prior to VAR decision were based on the subjective view of the ref and his servants and VAR would check to see if those were right, now it appears to me it simply supports the original decision in the same subjective method.
When analysis by the "experts" in media some fouls are judged as soft which appears to be the system used by VAR. I never knew that in Laws of the Game that fouls had a table of classification where foul play could be ignored.
It's not an easy job and we all have a bias we are probably blind to but I feel most fans would welcome VAR being scraped or overseen by officals who have no conection with the current referee association.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

I've only seen MotD and Sky highlights but we looked good in most parts of the match. It was pleasantly surprising to hear commentators and pundits speaking positively about our performance, perhaps its because I usually watch with mute on.