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Bullet said:
Anfield is a definite loss. Let Romero/Palhinha sit that out, they were both clearly dazed.

Then come back stronger.
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I fully expect Romero to be playing at weekend, if only to show those Brazilian pussies what a macho man he is 💪

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SteveAWOL said:
I fully expect Romero to be playing at weekend, if only to show those Brazilian pussies what a macho man he is 💪

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Former Saints man Lyanco brutally sucker-punched in brawl that led to 23 red cards

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Feckin hell. Take the morning off, ffs.
 
SteveAWOL said:
I fully expect Romero to be playing at weekend, if only to show those Brazilian pussies what a macho man he is 💪

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Former Saints man Lyanco brutally sucker-punched in brawl that led to 23 red cards

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That is wild. Just watched some longer footage, it went on for a good five minutes!! If that happened in the prem you'd be looking at some pretty lengthy prison sentences. Outrageous.
 
fernadez said:
How do you play that football without the players to do it?

Surely give the manager time to build to it.
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We spent two years with a project which had some problems for sure but which delivered a trophy. We lacked the bollox to see where it might go, instead going to Lange's comfort man/place.
We decided to rip up a project because we did not believe it could succeed, despite the success at the end of it (both in terms of pragmatism and winning).
And now we are where we are.

I know you disagree. That's fine. But when people start questioning those who wanted us to be what we are - a club that dares to do in all senses - I'm biting and will bite all day long.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Of course, but equally these players are compounding it by being utter garbage. MVDV put in another shocker of a challenge that he was lucky to get away with, its just not helpful either.
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That was an atrocious challenge for sure, he is a lucky guy.
I would say putting these players in a system they feel comfortable in right now might be helpful. Rip it up (again!) in the summer, but let's make sure that summer is in the PL!!!
 
fernadez said:
I got no idea what you're talking about. The question was why did Frank change his approach.
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Nope.

YOU started this 'discussion' with the following:

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The fans

The 'I don't care about the result as long as I'm entertained' mob were in full voice those times."

Own it.
IDGAF if you want to defend it or not, but trying to tell me you have 'no idea what I'm talking about' and then switching gears on the question? Nah, not having that.

I'm always happy to disagree with people who are honest in their opinions (@Baleforce and I will never agree on Mourinho for example but I luv 'em - baleforce that is - because they say it as they feel it and stand by it).

If you care to do that, then let's shake hands and move on.
 
thfcsteff said:
Nope.

YOU started this 'discussion' with the following:

"
The fans

The 'I don't care about the result as long as I'm entertained' mob were in full voice those times."

Own it.
IDGAF if you want to defend it or not, but trying to tell me you have 'no idea what I'm talking about' and then switching gears on the question? Nah, not having that.

I'm always happy to disagree with people who are honest in their opinions (@Baleforce and I will never agree on Mourinho for example but I luv 'em - baleforce that is - because they say it as they feel it and stand by it).

If you care to do that, then let's shake hands and move on.
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Have what you like, makes no difference to me.
 
Bishop said:
Fundementally I think we are brick and I have done for quite a while. Ange's first season or at least the begining of it was a good reprieve but we eventually fell back to a more accurate level. I do not believe this team is capable of playing front football effectively. I just don't, we of course rate our players very differently, so that's an area we will likely never quite agree on.

So with Frank deciding to try to be defensively solid I could understand. We have no defense, we leak goals like a sive. 60+ leagues conceded season after season just isn't sustainable so if Frank felt (quite fairly imo) that we didn't have the players to effectively play openly then I didn't mind seeing him try for the longer pass counter football. It's not a football style I like or enjoy, but sorting out the fudging defense was priority and should be a priority for whenever takes us over. We do not have the attacking quality to outscore our defense. I would have let him have this season after which I would then expect to see some progression in instilling a better style of football.
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This goes back to a lack of support around him. I think he was royally fudged by the boardroom shift (we saw that as we approached the Jan window) and a club which became a subset of VPs lacking a leader. For his part, he continually tried to say we were seeing things we weren't. I'd have had a whole line of dialogue he could've parroted to the press/in pressers which would've protected the players, protected him, and not tried to tell me I was seeing a rainbow on a black and white monitor.

As for that highlit line, it's pretty simple. Either play a pressing game and squeeze the lines so as you don't have 5 yard spaces for the oppo to play around pressure, or go into each game 5-4-1, sit low-block, bore the brick out of everyone, take the criticism and let the 'points' speak for you as you explain that there is building going on.

I go back to the profile of player we signed. I have always said a manager should get who THEY want even if it isn't who I want. He passed on Eze and Simnons early early in the window (don't ask but he did). We went in for MGW. That failed. We dingdonged around. We ended up getting him to agree that Eze would be good and fudged that. We then got Simons. You saw what the man plays; would Eze have been a fit for it? No! He was a fit for MY Tottenham, but not his. Ditto Simons, who subsequently was wasted on the left and arguable contributed to Odobert maybe not developing quite as fast as possible (he was starting to cook when he got hurt - I know you agree). So WHO kept on NOT getting him round pegs for round holes? Who didn't get him a left-winger? Or a left sidede FB/CB?

There are many points of blame for sure...I still maintain the whole thing was a mistake from the start, but he was not helped.
 
SteveAWOL said:
I fully expect Romero to be playing at weekend, if only to show those Brazilian pussies what a macho man he is 💪

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Former Saints man Lyanco brutally sucker-punched in brawl that led to 23 red cards

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Lyanco looked a beast at Soton.
More alarmingly.....how the f is Hulk still playing?!
 
SteveAWOL said:
I fully expect Romero to be playing at weekend, if only to show those Brazilian pussies what a macho man he is 💪

www.dailyecho.co.uk

Former Saints man Lyanco brutally sucker-punched in brawl that led to 23 red cards

Footage shows former Southampton defender Lyanco brutally sucker-punched in a mass brawl that led to an astonishing 23 players sent off.
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Sign him UP!
 
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