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I noticed weird something with Son today. Before I honestly could not tell if he was right- or left-footed. He banged them in from all angels and distances with either foot. Today he seemed to always want to shift it to his right foot. There were a couple of times where he could have just smacked it with he left, but he stopped, and shifted it to his right, and the chance was gone. Almost like he had an issue with his left, and didn't want to use it.
And he is left footed
Have you seen the video of them Playing foot golf in the stadium? He always used his left. I wouldn’t have known otherwise
 
I didn't. At the time he was spent.

I appreciate that, and yes, you have always been consistent on that front. Not to go too far back into it (because it is largely irrelevant given he is not here) but I saw it as a marriage that had hit a sticky patch and needed both people involved to commit to doing some ugly, dirty work together to pull through and have the second honeymoon phase (which I felt would've happened had both been committed). DL was not (as is his choice) so it was a non-starter. Having said that, I'd have taken Ancelotti over Mourinho or Nagelsmann had we pushed and pushed. Of course it doesn't matter, Mourinho is our manager and he gets the season, but my expectations are low, his philosophies feel increasingly out-dated and it is going to be a slog.

By GHod I want to be wearing egg on my face at the end of the season...
 
I appreciate that, and yes, you have always been consistent on that front. Not to go too far back into it (because it is largely irrelevant given he is not here) but I saw it as a marriage that had hit a sticky patch and needed both people involved to commit to doing some ugly, dirty work together to pull through and have the second honeymoon phase (which I felt would've happened had both been committed). DL was not (as is his choice) so it was a non-starter. Having said that, I'd have taken Ancelotti over Mourinho or Nagelsmann had we pushed and pushed. Of course it doesn't matter, Mourinho is our manager and he gets the season, but my expectations are low, his philosophies feel increasingly out-dated and it is going to be a slog.

By GHod I want to be wearing egg on my face at the end of the season...
And you know very well that egg is a key ingredient for custard.
 
I read this morning that idiot Frank Leboeuf managed to string two sentences together and said Mourinho has three games left to save his job.

It certainly shows how much player power is now ingrained in the mentality of football pundits: I'd say this group of players have a season to save themselves. We'll never know what might have been, hindsight and all that, but I can't shake the feeling that most of them have reached (or maybe broken) their own ceiling when we reached the CL final. Now, most of them are just shadows of their former selves, with Dele being the prime example of that.

Sure, Morinho's tactics aren't pleasing to the eye but when you look at yesterday's match, how could you imagine that, even with all the luck in the world, half of these guys reached the pinnacle of European football a couple of seasons ago?

Nobody could have foretold what happened with Covid and we'll never know for sure what was said behind closed doors, but I still believe the club should have made the hard choices back then and change the vast majority of the squad after the CL final. Something broke then, to the point that I'm not sure any of our players (bar Kane, of course) would be wanted by another team competing for a top-6 spot.

My guess is that we'll finish in upper-mid-table and do the necessary clearing-out next summer, although not on the same terms. Of course, I hope they prove me wrong but the longer it goes, the more these players remind me of the group we had in the mid-90s who got manager after manager sacked with their couldn't-care-less attitude...
 
It was a really odd sub
And one that made no sense

I thought at the time that the reason for the sub was to more mirror Evertons single pivot midfield, and that we were supposed to go more 4-3-3 from the restart, with Sissoko as right central midfield, covering for Doherty, and Winks as playmaker on the left central midfield. It obviously didn't work out, and the following changes were attempts to correct that again.

I think Jose bungled it with the substitutions, we could very well have kept the starting 11 and formation for the restart, and tried to make adjustments.
However, compared to not do anything untill 65 minutes regardless.... sometimes you take a gamble and it pays off, sometimes it does not.

I'm absolutely gutted with the performance and the result, it has been a long time since I've felt such an urge to throw something, anything, or even someone at the TV during a game. However, if Doherty scores on his chance it would have been happy days, Mourinho is a genious, etc etc.
 
I think it’s clear that José hasn’t had the preseason he wanted, the whole thing is a mess really. While this is the same for most teams I think things will improve. If nothing else we’ll have plenty of games coming to play ourself into some sort of form. Not conviced at all that José is the man to Get us firing but I do think he’ll have us playing better than last Night.
 
I thought at the time that the reason for the sub was to more mirror Evertons single pivot midfield, and that we were supposed to go more 4-3-3 from the restart, with Sissoko as right central midfield, covering for Doherty, and Winks as playmaker on the left central midfield. It obviously didn't work out, and the following changes were attempts to correct that again.

I think Jose bungled it with the substitutions, we could very well have kept the starting 11 and formation for the restart, and tried to make adjustments.
However, compared to not do anything untill 65 minutes regardless.... sometimes you take a gamble and it pays off, sometimes it does not.

I'm absolutely gutted with the performance and the result, it has been a long time since I've felt such an urge to throw something, anything, or even someone at the TV during a game. However, if Doherty scores on his chance it would have been happy days, Mourinho is a genious, etc etc.
Yeah I thought the same although not the winks playmaker bit
Considering we had created the best chances in that half (including the one for them) it felt just odd
If we’re playing 4-3-3 (which is how we looked to me first half with Moura staying in midfield) we should play the players there from the start. It actually felt like really weak management and certainly not assertive management
 
I read this morning that idiot Frank Leboeuf managed to string two sentences together and said Mourinho has three games left to save his job.

It certainly shows how much player power is now ingrained in the meteorology of football pundits: I'd say this group of players have a season to save themselves. We'll never know what might have been, hindsight and all that, but I can't shake the feeling that most of them have reached (or maybe broken) their own ceiling when we reached the CL final. Now, most of them are just shadows of their former selves, with Dele being the prime example of that.

Sure, Morinho's tactics aren't pleasing to the eye but when you look at yesterday's match, how could you imagine that, even with all the luck in the world, half of these guys reached the pinnacle of European football a couple of seasons ago?

Nobody could have foretold what happened with Covid and we'll never know for sure what was said behind closed doors, but I still believe the club should have made the hard choices back then and change the vast majority of the squad after the CL final. Something broke then, to the point that I'm not sure any of our players (bar Kane, of course) would be wanted by another team competing for a top-6 spot.

My guess is that we'll finish in upper-mid-table and do the necessary clearing-out next summer, although not on the same terms. Of course, I hope they prove me wrong but the longer it goes, the more these players remind me of the group we had in the mid-90s who got manager after manager sacked with their couldn't-care-less attitude...

The weird thing is, there have been no rumours of Kane, Son, Alli, Moura etc wanting to leave over the summer. And so I really thought this would be a new start, where the players were commuted, enthusiastic and confident. And first half I thought the attitude was good. But then second half they just looked like they didn’t want to be there. Can’t help but wonder if whatever Mourinho did / said at half-time had a negative effect? I know that seeing Alli subbed for Sissoko certainly had a negative effect on me!
 
I think it’s clear that José hasn’t had the preseason he wanted, the whole thing is a mess really. While this is the same for most teams I think things will improve. If nothing else we’ll have plenty of games coming to play ourself into some sort of form. Not conviced at all that José is the man to Get us firing but I do think he’ll have us playing better than last Night.

yeah, it’s turned the fixture pile up into a good thing

we need to find our tempo
 
With Poch, you always felt if backed properly we'd come through because he has so much to give. Mourinho is a busted flush. He was at Man U. We all know it whether we want to admit it or not.

Just don’t get this mate..

Jose when backed = Winning top titles

Poch = Never backed because he is awful with money and has never won anything.

Yet Poch is the obvious call...

I may have to stop coming on here for a couple of seasons, the circle jerk from opportunities to slate our manager and not support the team is overwhelming (I didn’t mean you Steff but bringing up Poch again in this OMT? Really?!)

Just to add, yep we should be tinkled off after that performance and complaining is one thing but you have the likes of @modricthfc presumably edging to this thread basking in the glory of thinking he (?) was right all along, huzzah!!!!!!
 
Can’t help but wonder if whatever Mourinho did / said at half-time had a negative effect? I know that seeing Alli subbed for Sissoko certainly had a negative effect on me!

A lot of managers seem to enjoy players like Sissoko. Maybe because what you see is what you get, I don't know. Maybe he has a great attitude on the training ground. We'll never know for sure. I too thought he was brought in help us switch to a 4-3-3 BUT... a) what was the point, considering we created most of the chances in the first half (including theirs, as bedford mentioned) and b) he said a couple of days ago that he knew his squad so they wouldn't have to adapt to each other? 45 minutes into the game and he feels the need to make such drastic changes? Doesn't exactly fill anyone with confidence, does it?

It's true that he's always been one to make bold changes and sometimes, it does pay off and it's also true that a couple of (important) signings could maybe change the mood of the whole squad; Everton look good and they're on the up; Mourinho's tactics make defeat look worse than they really are... there're plenty of mitigating factors but I do find it worrying that we looked much better in the first weeks of the year, up until Son got injured. It shouldn't look that way.
 
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