Mosquito_Coasting
Jonathan Woodgate
Alli's one on one and Llorente's at the end were very clear cut.
Yep. But for de Gea, that would've been a thrashing.
Thought he was fantastic today. Pogba will get the plaudits but Winks was the best CM on the park for me.
There's no need for Coldplay though @DubaiSpur. A Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference would've been preferable.
Heard a rumour he had an "altercation" shall we say with his mrs. Might be a load of crap but a few mates of mine who were at the game today told me.
The injury situation (or at least its effects o us) were entirely predictable sadly and self-inflicted when we had the transfer window we had.
there is only so much you can flog the same players and try and stay in 4 competitions
But if we buy more players they can’t go in the squad...
The transfer window has no bearing on the injuries we get
They have, mate - I've never argued that they haven't. But they did it with the club's own money - they redirected it in a semi-competent fashion into infrastructure over the team.
I've made the comparison before, but they're basically following the Arsenal model, without the actual league titles, trophies or success that comes with it. And don't get me wrong, that's competent stuff, but it's just nothing that couldn't have been done by someone who also actually cared about keeping our good teams together, and spending a bit to do it.
And let's be honest - without Poch, would that last bit be valid? Poch himself even admitted that ENIC's plan for him was to stay somewhere in the top six until the new stadium, and then get top four in the season *after* the move.
Poch is the man who revolutionized everything, far surpassing even what ENIC expected from him. The problem now is that this has put our owners in the inconvenient situation where they would actually have to invest to maintain that progress to the satisfaction of the manager and the players, who all want to win things.
And, as we've seen, ENIC has failed on that count, and keeps failing with every passing day. The team needed investment in the summer, needs it more now, and will need it even more next summer - but I expect absolutely nothing from them, because they're more comfortable with the Sahas and Nelsens of the world.
They're not bad owners. But they're not particularly beneficial anymore, either - they're just competent, risk-averse administrators.
I definitely haven't forgotten - even if I'm a bit nostalgic about those years, because every goal meant more and the days were just a lot more expectation-free in general . But I also think Spurs fans were very traumatized by the Sugar years and the atrocious 90's - to the point where competence looks like genius, because it's better than what we had before. Anything would be better, after all - and a solid job suddenly looks inspirational and against all odds.
What ENIC have done is a solid, reasonably competent job. But we can do better. And we should be striving to find better, because they've hit their glass ceiling.
That this is such a controversial opinion that generates such rage on the board (not you by any means, but more broadly) always amuses me.
I'm about the summer window. It has been clear since last April that we needed extra bodies in central midfield as Dembele and Wanyama had come to the end of the line for different reasons. Plus Winks was already someone coming back from a long-term injury as well as an understudy anyway relatively.
So players like Winks and Sissoko have been overplayed as it is.
Poch has worked miracles to keep us where we are despite our squad's CM holes, but i fear eventually it will bite us on the behind...
You’re about to get an epic kicking from the vast majority of the 7.7 billion people inhabiting the planet...Pah - Parachutes and Viva La Vida were damn good albums, and I'll fight anyone that suggests otherwise.
Has the game finished yet?
Don’t but that at all.
Both Wanyama and Dembele have played this season. Issue is they got injured again
You can’t have players and assume they will get injured constantly as that doesn’t happen in 99.9% of players unless it’s a rehabilitating injury
We didn’t lose today because if CM, we lost because our disarms couldn’t finish
And two of the wonderful CMs everyone thought we should have bought went to Chelsea... and look bang average IMO at a cost of £50m each
Don’t forget Dier as missing due to an appendicitis... when did you ,ast near of a player having one of those FFS.i
Corner Pin it is then.Pah - Parachutes and Viva La Vida were damn good albums, and I'll fight anyone that suggests otherwise.
It was clear as i say from last spring that Dembele and Wanyama were on their last legs. We needed to be proactive to keep our level (or even push up further) and make sure what has been one of our strengths (a wall of 'meat' in the cm area protecting the back four and given our full-backs more security to attack) did not become our weakness as has done this year.
Have Wanyama or Dembele when played looked anywhere near as good as they had done in 2016/17 (or even some of last year)?
And re Dier he is a miss true but even he has his limitations, which i feel other PL teams have now sussed and started exploiting a bit more.
Re Today, i agree it was our poor finishing, but they still mustered 8 shots to our 11. If we have a better cm, i think we don't give them as many opportunities.
We had over 20 shots I believe
I thought Wanyama would be back fit and fine, and clearly I’m wrong
Moussa is know older so I so I get that one
Whoever we have they would be exposed with full backs like today who are not quick enough for the game we play to cover for themselves.
And Dier is far far better than people make out. I’ve said it too many times, but he does all the basics very well and cover space better than most. Sissoko is the opposite in that he chases players and does that really well (and has been excellent). I honestly think from what I’ve seen if Dier with Winks in the 3 games they have played together including England Spain, there is a proper pairing there
We had over 20 shots I believe
I thought Wanyama would be back fit and fine, and clearly I’m wrong
Moussa is know older so I so I get that one
Whoever we have they would be exposed with full backs like today who are not quick enough for the game we play to cover for themselves.
And Dier is far far better than people make out. I’ve said it too many times, but he does all the basics very well and cover space better than most. Sissoko is the opposite in that he chases players and does that really well (and has been excellent). I honestly think from what I’ve seen if Dier with Winks in the 3 games they have played together including England Spain, there is a proper pairing there
Every man and his dog can surely see that he is only any good with a back 3 to cover his arse all game, he cannot play in a 4 unless Sissoko is there to hold his hand. How many times in the 2nd half was Eriksen getting the ball, looking up and Trippier is miles behind the play, coz he stays back due to not having the cover anymore. He is too limited physically to play as a right-back in a back 4 for a team like us.