spurspinter1
Pat van den Hauwe
If given the opportunity, Stuart Pearce would probably get borussia dortmund relegated
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O/T U21 European Championship
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Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
shocking, was having a lovely day think i may go back outside in a minute, wont let football ruin another day.
Think caulker did not get enough game time this season, whether he should have stayed out on loan or not i do not know but he was so promising at swansea and then not getting enough games has set him back.
I hope him and carroll and townsend get a good amount of league games and all the cups next season.
Why carroll is not out there i would love to know, i thought we were trying to get passers into the side. I remember reading someone say that the under 21 coaches do not actually go round the different academies but just see who makes it to the first team.
spurspinter1
Pat van den Hauwe
Obviously not the best defensively today but Caulker is such a beast in the air. Offisde unfortunately but imo Dawson Verts or Kaboul don't offer anywhere near the same threat from set pieces. Not wanting to be Stoke, but it does create so many possibilities having someone so determined to get on the ball from a free kick/corner
El Guepardo
Rafael Van Der Vaart
The problem with Caulker, I think, is that he gets turned too easily.
Danners9
Luke Young
Tim Sherwood said that about why some of the good players don't get picked, basically that the sides are picked on reputation rather than ability and form.
I wonder how people like Platt, Wilkinson and Pearce have had the chance to be in charge of the U21 setup. A proper youth coach would be a better idea, no? someone who actually knows what is happening at youth level, bringing through some U18/19/20 players as well. Maybe they just think these guys are (mostly) Prem players so they should be good enough. The 2 performances so far show that the side is sent out with no ideas and no tactics.
rosenthal
Sebastien Bassong
Tim Sherwood first of all said that the England set up select central midfielders that are physical rather than talented. He commented on Pearce calling up 4 "centre back" midfielders, while he thought Pearce hadn't even heard of someone like Tom Carroll.
After his Carroll did get his call up, but very little opportunity. And now he's at home (think he's picked up an injury after the squad was selected though), while England have Chalobah, Lowe, Henderson and Shelvey as midfield options.
Two defensive midfielders, while the two others are more attacking but still physical/power players. No baller.
I'd make Glenn Hoddle in charge of U21 to be honest, or in fact, I'd try to make Arsene Wenger U21 boss and head of talent development with Hoddle in charge of a younger age group.
Worth way more than what's invested in buildings and senior manager. I'd rather have a senior player pick the first team and save the money spent on someone like Hodgson/Svennis - if that is what it'd take to get quality coaching into the youth department.
Danners9
Luke Young
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ein-wants-English-players-Premier-League.html
It's actually 37%, or was last season. Still the largest nationality, problem is that the pricetags:ability doesn't match up and the quota forces clubs to pay over the odds for inferior players. Or do what City did and pick up dead ducks like Richard Wright on a free.
60% for Germany is impressive, it shows their system is working. The Premier League chases profits though, the best product needs the best players and they aren't English. That needs to change.
Think it will drop further with many academies now focusing on foreign players. Those that come through in the lower leagues aren't exactly schooled in pass and move.
Jimmy Kong
Steven Pienaar
The problem with Caulker is he forgets he is playing football. Hopefully he can improve, I think I remember Rio being the same?
That seems like a bit of a reactionary view considering the U21s record going into this tournament. However, with his contract coming to an end this will have to be the end for Pearce with the U21s.
From memory both Platt and Pearce were considered to be promising coaches with the potential to become Senior team managers in the future. In hindsight that may have been wrong in both cases, but the U21s have had decent records under both of them plus Peter Taylor in the past. Wilkinson was slightly different but wasn't the dinosaur that some seem to remember him as being. In his time at the FA he was actually one of the first to push for a more coordinated approach to youth development through the national team structures.
Specialist youth coaches are the way forward but it's only relatively recently that anyone in the UK has been taking that approach.
The style in which the development teams play has to be part of a coordinated approach across the game in England, as shown through one of the big criticisms of Pearce being that he has been too result focused.
Danners9
Luke Young
The U21 league and NextGen is a good first step, as is the new national academy. Just needs the right coaches and scouts emphasising the right things... having Hodgson and Pearce in charge of the national sides is not the way to progress. Neither are going to do anything to change (nor will the FA or Brooking in whatever his job is).
Also, if they want to copy Spain then they are too late. This boring 'English style' player needs to be phased out. Teaching control and technique in small-sided games like Brazil do with Futsal may help.
It's not one or the other though. There is enough money to have a decent senior team manager and to invest in coaching. The problem is that change will take time and a creative focus on youth development is something relatively new.
I don't think either Hoddle or Wenger would be any use in charge of individual youth teams, but either could do a decent job of creating an overall strategy and approach for younger coaches to get involved.
Danners9
Luke Young
Were they?! Pearce has been there 6yrs! Way too long. It's no surprise the England U21 did quite well in the build up, they had a bunch of established Prem players - some of whom had already played at the full level. Now, with the likes of Carroll, Wheelchair, Rodwell and whoever gone or not available, this side looks crap.
Call it reactionary if you like, I don't see much U21 football, but even after 1 and a half games of this tournament it's pretty obvious what is wrong with this team. U21 is always difficult because the players move on, but it should be a stepping stone to the full side and not a young B Team. They should be bringing through the best, not the ones left over from England seniors and who hasn't gone on holiday yet.
When you're coaching a youth team it's not about how many games you win. You need coaches who care more about developing players than boosting their CV in hope of getting a managerial position at a club. This is why I don't understand why the FA targets well known players for coaching positions with the various national teams.
Nail on head - Pearce doesn't care about developing these players he cares about getting the next England job - he qualifies for tournaments by grinding down physical play but these players are very poor technically none of them have top-level futures.
