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the chickens are coming home to roost now arent they
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O/T Manager Sack Watch
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Robbo
Paul Walsh
Still ten days more than his predecessor Henning Berg, who was sacked in December after 57 days in charge.
GGyid
Luke Young
serves him right for counting his chickens
Robbo
Paul Walsh
Still think the chairman is a bit of a c0ck though.
spasm
Gudni Bergsson
raboner
Banned
Blackburn are an absolute laughing stock! How much money will it be costing them to terminate these managers contracts? When these Venkys tossers tinkle off they'll have transformed a formerly comfortable premier league club into a championship struggler..
Being purchased by a foreign owner isn't always as great as it seems.. I remember great optimism from the Blackburn faithful when the chicken fudgers first took over. Buyer beware.
Being purchased by a foreign owner isn't always as great as it seems.. I remember great optimism from the Blackburn faithful when the chicken fudgers first took over. Buyer beware.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
City fans always harp on about sensibly-run clubs 'throwing away any chance of success' and 'handing the title for ever more to United, Arsenal et al' when those clubs press for tougher financial regulations. To them, every club should be anxiously praying for a wealthy saviour, and waiting for one to come along is the best chance of achieving success. Well, Blackburn prayed, and one came along. Venky's were considerably wealthier than Jack Walker's trustees, after all. And this new owner came in, promised Ronaldinho, sacked Allardyce, replaced him with Kean, got relegated, hired a TV pundit to be their decisions-guy, spent big money, sacked Keane when they were fourth in the table, hired Henning Berg, sacked him after two horrific months,and finally hired Michael Appleton and sacked him after a little less than two months, when they're currently currently hovering four points above the Championship drop zone.
This is the damage an unrestricted owner can do to a club. Yet for City (and Chelsea) fans, this sort of thing is acceptable because you never know, the next wealthy owner might be smart. For them, the dozens of clubs that have failed because they're forced to gamble their existences on shady fly-by-night 'rich' owners are acceptable collateral as long as a few of them (like Abramovich and Mansour) flood the game with their dubiously-acquired fortunes and lift a couple of clubs up while dooming everyone below them to either spend more to compete or fall away and die.
fudge. That. This is why financial regulation is needed. This is why a club cannot spend more than it earns on things like wages and transfer fees, because that sort of gambling attracts the likes of Venky's, Gaydamak, Faraj, and any number of chancers. If an owner wants to invest in a club, let him, her or it invest in the club's long-term future. Facilities, youth academies, community support, cheaper ticket prices to encourage younger fans...let them establish foundations for the club rather than blow all their cash on players and agents and then leave the place in dire straits, or sack manager after manager and run up huge losses because they're impatient, arrogant, clueless or all three. This supposed threat of domination by of Arsenal, United and co. is a small price to pay to prevent clubs like Blackburn and Portsmouth going under or dropping divisions like 10-ton weights.
And if anyone thinks the Bluemoon/Shed-End suggestions about just toughening the 'fit and proper person' rules are viable options, think again. If City fans have their way, the owner can spend his or her money however he or she likes, with absolutely no restrictions. That's how you compete at the top, apparently. So, by extension, the only thing a tougher 'fit and proper persons' test can do is verify that they have enough money to run the club. Beyond that, anything else, like verifying that the owner isn't too arrogant, deluded or clueless about the game, would be infringing on their right to spend their money how they like, which is crucial to City and Chelsea fans' ideas on the game, no? Ignoring the very real possibility that such a test would infringe on private property and discrimination laws, that alone is contradictory enough to show you that they don't exactly care where the money's coming from or what happens to clubs like these, as long as they can continue spending. fudge that.
This is the damage an unrestricted owner can do to a club. Yet for City (and Chelsea) fans, this sort of thing is acceptable because you never know, the next wealthy owner might be smart. For them, the dozens of clubs that have failed because they're forced to gamble their existences on shady fly-by-night 'rich' owners are acceptable collateral as long as a few of them (like Abramovich and Mansour) flood the game with their dubiously-acquired fortunes and lift a couple of clubs up while dooming everyone below them to either spend more to compete or fall away and die.
fudge. That. This is why financial regulation is needed. This is why a club cannot spend more than it earns on things like wages and transfer fees, because that sort of gambling attracts the likes of Venky's, Gaydamak, Faraj, and any number of chancers. If an owner wants to invest in a club, let him, her or it invest in the club's long-term future. Facilities, youth academies, community support, cheaper ticket prices to encourage younger fans...let them establish foundations for the club rather than blow all their cash on players and agents and then leave the place in dire straits, or sack manager after manager and run up huge losses because they're impatient, arrogant, clueless or all three. This supposed threat of domination by of Arsenal, United and co. is a small price to pay to prevent clubs like Blackburn and Portsmouth going under or dropping divisions like 10-ton weights.
And if anyone thinks the Bluemoon/Shed-End suggestions about just toughening the 'fit and proper person' rules are viable options, think again. If City fans have their way, the owner can spend his or her money however he or she likes, with absolutely no restrictions. That's how you compete at the top, apparently. So, by extension, the only thing a tougher 'fit and proper persons' test can do is verify that they have enough money to run the club. Beyond that, anything else, like verifying that the owner isn't too arrogant, deluded or clueless about the game, would be infringing on their right to spend their money how they like, which is crucial to City and Chelsea fans' ideas on the game, no? Ignoring the very real possibility that such a test would infringe on private property and discrimination laws, that alone is contradictory enough to show you that they don't exactly care where the money's coming from or what happens to clubs like these, as long as they can continue spending. fudge that.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Well said that man
Denmark Spur
Michael Carrick
Brighton have given Gus Poyet permission to talk to Reading over their managerial vacancy according to Sky Sports
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indianspur
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GUs would be nuts to go there. They are going down and id say Brighton have a better chance of promotion next season. Thats if they dont make it this season and pass by Reading going the other way
Dicko
Paul Stalteri
This
Palace were in a much better position than Bolton! He mentioned that Bolton had better infrastructure but what the hell does that matter. Surely there's more glory in taking Palace up who haven't been there for a while than taking a recently mid-table PL side like Bolton back up? AND he was already a bit of a cult figure at Palace.
I think someone mentioned it here before but they said it's much better to be a mid-table Championship manager that makes the play-offs every once in a while than it is to take a team up to the PL. It sounds crazy but when you think about it, most clubs that get into the PL sack their managers either in the hope of staying up OR once they stay up they then try to attract a bigger name, leaving the guy that got them up looking for another job, usually back in the Championship!
I've said it many times. Sometimes it's better to move on than become a victim of your own success. Lambert leaving Norwich was a calculated gamble by him and if he keeps Villa up it will have paid off. He can then spend another couple of seasons gradually improving them before moving to the next club.
DeanoAustin
Jimmy McCormick
That's absolutely right. Had Nigel Adkins gotten Southampton to the play-offs and lost last year, he'd still have a job. It boils my blood to see what happened to him and McDermott. fudging jokes of decisions by people who know nothing about football.
Paul Merson made a good point about Reading last weekend (can't believe I'm putting that cnut in the same sentence as the words 'good point' by the way). He said they are doomed at this point and he's right. Next season they will be in the Championship and when you're looking at candidates to get you back up, Brian McDermott would be up there for any club. The sacking doesn't make sense in the short, medium or long term. They only gave that fella £7.1 million to spend too. How in the name of Saint Michael on a Bicycle can someone be expected to keep a team like Reading in the Premiership having spent £7.1 million? For fudge sake, Harry spent a fortune in January (not to mention what Hughes blew in the summer) while Villa spent that much on Benteke alone. And both those clubs were Premiership teams anyway.
Football is fudging rotten when you see good men and good managers being treated that badly and that idiotically.
I wouldn't say keeping them up was his job spec at the start of the season. He is failing miserably at Villa and moving there from Norwich was a mistake.
With the squad he inherited I'd say keeping them up is a success. As soon as someone slightly higher up the table offers him a chance he'll be off again.