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O/T Champions League Draw
- Thread starter Jordinho
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Group Winners: PSG, Schalke 04, Malaga, Borussia Dortmund, Barcelona, Manchester United, Bayern/Valencia, Shaktar/Juventus
Runners Up: Porto, Arsenal, Milan, Real Madrid, Benfica/Celtic, Galatasaray/Cluj, Valencia/Bayern, Juventus/Shaktar/Chelsea
Deciding games:
Barcelona - Benfica
Celtic - Spartak Moscow
Celtic need a better result than Benfica to finish second. Benfica guaranteed to go through with win.
Man Utd - Cluj
Braga - Galatasaray
Cluj are in the same position as Celtic, they need to better whatever Galatasaray gets. Gala guaranteed to go through with win.
Bayern - BATE Borisov
Lille - Valencia
Valencia will need to better what Bayern does to win the group. Bayern guaranteed to top the group with a win.
Chelsea - Nordsjaelland
Shaktar Donetsk - Juventus
Juventus win: Juventus top of group, Shaktar second
Shaktar and Juve draw: Shaktar top of group, Juventus second
Shaktar win: Shaktar top of group, Chelsea second IF they win against Nordsjaelland.
Runners Up: Porto, Arsenal, Milan, Real Madrid, Benfica/Celtic, Galatasaray/Cluj, Valencia/Bayern, Juventus/Shaktar/Chelsea
Deciding games:
Barcelona - Benfica
Celtic - Spartak Moscow
Celtic need a better result than Benfica to finish second. Benfica guaranteed to go through with win.
Man Utd - Cluj
Braga - Galatasaray
Cluj are in the same position as Celtic, they need to better whatever Galatasaray gets. Gala guaranteed to go through with win.
Bayern - BATE Borisov
Lille - Valencia
Valencia will need to better what Bayern does to win the group. Bayern guaranteed to top the group with a win.
Chelsea - Nordsjaelland
Shaktar Donetsk - Juventus
Juventus win: Juventus top of group, Shaktar second
Shaktar and Juve draw: Shaktar top of group, Juventus second
Shaktar win: Shaktar top of group, Chelsea second IF they win against Nordsjaelland.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Arselona vs Barcenal pls. Actually can't see Arsenal beating any of the group winners.
jurgen lineker
Radek Cerny
So many high-quality teams in this years competition, most open it has been for years. There are going to be some great match-ups from here on in.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
So Arsenal can't play United or Schalke in the next round. Let's hope they get Barca, Dortmund or Bayern.
Dortmund Arsenal pls
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Dortmund, Bayern or Barca. I'd fancy Juve and PSG to beat them too. Quite a strong last 16 this year.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
I think it's more evidence that the premier league is living off past glories and is overhyped. Great to watch, but not the best league and hasn't been for a few years now, Bundesliga is quickly catching up.
Mönchengladbach didn't make it through to the group stage, but have qualified for the next round in the EL. So have Leverkusen and Hannover as well, while Stuttgart need to win at home against Molde tomorrow.
Haven't Spain got 4? Real, Barca, Malaga and Valencia?
And there's only one Portuguese club
chicken_badge
Gudni Bergsson
FINALS SINCE 2005
2005 winners Liverpool
2006 losahs Arsenal
2007 losers Liverpool
2008 winners Man U losahs Chelsea
2009 losers Man U
2010 -
2011 losers Man U
2012 winners Chelsea
Spanish, Italian clubs have also had a significant contribution to finals over this time but not to the same extent as England. Two runners up for Germany (both Bayern). And bear in mind that when Barca and Inter won their titles they also were far and away the dominant team at home, but Chelsea and Liverpool won their titles when finishing only fifth in their leagues.
There have also been a very strong presence from English clubs right up to quarter finals in most years, and lets not forget our own fantastic contribution for a debut season. The failings of City, Chelski (and Man U last year) stand out because they are exceptionally bad, but to be fair City have had a particularly tough draw two years running.
| Group Winners | Runners Up |
| PSG | Porto |
| Schalke 04 | Arsenal |
| Malaga | AC Milan |
| Dortmund | Real Madrid |
| Barcelona | Celtic |
| Bayern | Valencia |
| Manchester Utd | Galatasaray |
| Juventus | Shaktar |
You can't be drawn against teams from the same country or from your group. Draw starts in 30 minutes. UEFA.com should have a stream, but don't get your hopes up.
spurspinter1
Steve Carr
Why is it at Wembley again? Very dull stadium.