Next Spurs Manager

[Legohamster]

The only glimmer of positivity i can see in appointing Mourinho is that surely we wouldn't do so unless we were going to be operating on a new level, financially speaking? Which is a good sign for the medium term i guess

I’d imagine he would have been promised players in jan/summer.

I imagine him and Levy know it’s potentially the last chance either of them get to make it work.

 

[MKSpur]

I think what we will see from Jose is a system than can cover the weaknesses we have in the defence till we can get to t


I can’t get my head around spurs fans that are picky over trophies, we have won three cups since 91.

We should be delighted with anything.

As for Europa being a booby prize? I’m note sure how he was meant to win the CL that season as he wasn’t in it.

Europa league with CL is a trophy that brings CL revenue and would live longer in the memory than finishing 2nd. I think the winners get better seeding too?
It may not be a comparable achievement but that’s why cups were invented, to keep the season alive for as many clubs as possible. I think we will see a trend of English clubs winning it due to the strength of teams not competing for CL.

 

[billyiddo]

I think what we will see from Jose is a system than can cover the weaknesses we have in the defence till we can get to t


I can’t get my head around spurs fans that are picky over trophies, we have won three cups since 91.

We should be delighted with anything.

As for Europa being a booby prize? I’m note sure how he was meant to win the CL that season as he wasn’t in it.

His defensive system at United appeared to be to field 7 defenders in the starting XI and isolate any forward players.

He speaks a good game on TV but i think people are in for a rude awakening when he gets up and running here.

United fans are tinkling themselves at this move from what i have seen.

A couple of years ago we were laughing at the thought of Poch leaving us for them, while they desperately wanted Mourinho out at all costs and now we've essentially done them a swap deal, on fudging purpose

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

I’m still clinging to the hope that it’s a smokescreen.

 

[Lakey]

Sky reporting that Jose has agreed the deal now

 

[Mulletperm]

I bloody hope not.

 

[Rorschach]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1197040181657784320

 

[Rorschach]

Tits

 

[milo]

My hope is that this is still Mourinho's PR putting his name out there.

Mourinho is a terrible fit.

He used to be the cutting edge but he has turned into a dinosaur. Look at Rooney's quotes when Mourinho was sacked at United. Rooney said he was shocked at how badly he dealt with the younger players.

We need a man manager in right now to settle the dressing room. Instead we will have a guy that will start fights with everyone every day. He believes in the outdated 'conflict management'.

He is terrible at bringing young players through. At the start of the season he was complaining about Lampard starting Abraham.

Then there's the negative football. It's not just the defensive nonsense. It's the use of big physical players that can't kick a ball. His reliance on the likes of Fellaini to get him out of trouble.

Then there's his toxic personally. The little cheating eye gouging prick. He deflects all critism into his players and belittles the club. Now long before he starts talking about how many titles he has compared to Spurs.

He's completely out of date tactically now. His aura completely collapsed after that season at Chelsea.

I will not be supporting him or "backing the manager". This is George Graham again. I already see people on this board sickeningly referring to him as "Jose". Like some Chelsea fan.

I completely agree. Levy has a habit of making managerial appointments that are a reaction to the last. It is a bad way to run the club and makes the rebuilding job bigger.

The club should have a vision about how we play and pick a manager that fits that. Based on the money we've spent and where, it should be someone who can work within a budget, is good at developing young players and preferably plays attractive football. Mourinho Is none of those things.

 

[ShipOfTheseus]

If I could be arsed to work out how to lay things on Betfair I’d gamble my house and children on Mourinho not getting the job.

Never got round to it, fortunately. Although the children are quite annoying at times.

 

[DubaiSpur]

I completely agree. Levy has a habit of making managerial appointments that are a reaction to the last. It is a bad way to run the club and makes the rebuilding job bigger.

The club should have a vision about how we play and pick a manager that fits that. Based on the money we've spent and where, it should be someone who can work within a budget, is good at developing young players and preferably plays attractive football. Mourinho Is none of those things.

It's official, and what we have now, so get used to it, I guess.

I think you're right, though - this is a complete reaction to Poch, by going for a proven winner in Mourinho. It might be tempered by the fact that Levy's been hankering after Mourinho since 2007,but it's still reactionary given the differences between Mou and Poch.

The problem is, this requires a complete change in how we act as a club - we need to spend to bring in the players Mourinho wants.

If not, this is doomed to fail from the start.

Either Levy has decided to spend now, in which case, why not just spend on Poch? Or, he wants to try his cheapskate tactics again, but with Mourinho.

Mourinho, unfortunately, will not stand it for a femtosecond and will walk away - but not before leaving a trail of destruction here.

We'll see which it is in January.

 

[billyiddo]

It's official, and what we have now, so get used to it, I guess.

I think you're right, though - this is a complete reaction to Poch, by going for a proven winner in Mourinho. It might be tempered by the fact that Levy's been hankering after Mourinho since 2007,but it's still reactionary given the differences between Mou and Poch.

The problem is, this requires a complete change in how we act as a club - we need to spend to bring in the players Mourinho wants.

If not, this is doomed to fail from the start.

Either Levy has decided to spend now, in which case, why not just spend on Poch? Or, he wants to try his cheapskate tactics again, but with Mourinho.

Mourinho, unfortunately, will not stand it for a femtosecond and will walk away - but not before leaving a trail of destruction here.

We'll see which it is in January.

A change in style of play maybe but if you look at the type of players he signed at Chelsea first time around then signings like Lo Celso and Ndombele would fit in to that mould - Drogba, Robben, Essein etc

 

[DubaiSpur]

A change in style of play maybe but if you look at the type of players he signed at Chelsea first time around then signings like Lo Celso and Ndombele would fit in to that mould - Drogba, Robben, Essein etc

Actually, we have attackers that are almost mirrors of his first Chelsea side - theoretically. Dele is a mirror image of Lampard - likewise Kane with Drogba, Son with Robben, Lo Celso with Joe Cole, etc.

Question of whether the defense holds up, really.

 

[milo]

Mourinho, unfortunately, will not stand it for a femtosecond and will walk away - but not before leaving a trail of destruction here.

Mourinho would never walk away. He'd act like a clam until Levy sacked him.

 

[Finney Is Back]

Both dwarfed by the funds he won against in the CL though.

In the season that Inter won the Champions league they had the 9th biggest income in World football and the second biggest in Italy (less than 7 million Euros behind Juventus).

However despite having only the 9th highest income they spent money like a team with far greater resources.... In the three years up to and including their CL winning season their unsustainable spending meant that they made losses 208 million, 148 million and 154 million (all in euros). So a total of over 500 million euros of losses in the three years up to and including that season. Inter's wage bill the season they won the CL was a whopping 205 million euros, which was over 1OO% of their income.... By quite a long way the biggest in Italy and to put in even more context 10% larger than Real Madrid's wage bill.

Do not be fooled into thinking that Mourinho won the CL on a budget with Inter. He did so with them having the second highest wage bill in World football behind Barcelona.

 

[Finney Is Back]

And that's a fair point. But they were competing in the CL with clubs who had cost much, much more. Mourinho, as much as I dislike the clam, has a very, very good football brain and I think it's wrong to write him off as a "chequebook manager" or "yesterday's man".

At Porto yes... not at Inter though. My worry is that Porto was eons ago in footballing terms.

 

[Finney Is Back]

It actually did work

- Chelsea -> PL title & League Cup
- United -> League Cup & Europa League

I could do with some of that "failure", add in the completely fudged up organizations that both of those clubs are?

I am not attempting to defend his character or style but Spurs fans have to be having a laugh if they think he's not good enough for us

- In 18 years of managing he has won more brick than Spurs as a club in 138 years .. fudge we really are a pretentious bunch

But that is at two clubs that average a trophy a year anyway.

 

[Bishop]

In the season that Inter won the Champions league they had the 9th biggest income in World football and the second biggest in Italy (less than 7 million Euros behind Juventus).

However despite having only the 9th highest income they spent money like a team with far greater resources.... In the three years up to and including their CL winning season their unsustainable spending meant that they made losses 208 million, 148 million and 154 million (all in euros). So a total of over 500 million euros of losses in the three years up to and including that season. Inter's wage bill the season they won the CL was a whopping 205 million euros, which was over 1OO% of their income.... By quite a long way the biggest in Italy and to put in even more context 10% larger than Real Madrid's wage bill.

Do not be fooled into thinking that Mourinho won the CL on a budget with Inter. He did so with them having the second highest wage bill in World football behind Barcelona.

Yeah there is this revisionism whereby people only look at the headline figures for that specific season. Inter spent absolute tons and to put it in even more perspective their wage bill in 2010 is some 60m MORE than spurs in 2019, nine whole years later. So yes Inter's situation is nothing like ours. Jose has never worked worked a club of our stature since his very first club Leira. Every other side has been a dominant team financially in their own league.



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[scaramanga]

Actually, we have attackers that are almost mirrors of his first Chelsea side - theoretically. Dele is a mirror image of Lampard - likewise Kane with Drogba, Son with Robben, Lo Celso with Joe Cole, etc.

Question of whether the defense holds up, really.

Probably needs replacing anyway

 

[Baleforce]

In the season that Inter won the Champions league they had the 9th biggest income in World football and the second biggest in Italy (less than 7 million Euros behind Juventus).

However despite having only the 9th highest income they spent money like a team with far greater resources.... In the three years up to and including their CL winning season their unsustainable spending meant that they made losses 208 million, 148 million and 154 million (all in euros). So a total of over 500 million euros of losses in the three years up to and including that season. Inter's wage bill the season they won the CL was a whopping 205 million euros, which was over 1OO% of their income.... By quite a long way the biggest in Italy and to put in even more context 10% larger than Real Madrid's wage bill.

Do not be fooled into thinking that Mourinho won the CL on a budget with Inter. He did so with them having the second highest wage bill in World football behind Barcelona.

and they finished ahead of Barcelona