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New New Manager Poll (The Lets Get It Right This Time Edition)

Who Do You Want Then?

  • Poch

    Votes: 58 43.3%

  • Gallardo

    Votes: 7 5.2%

  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Enrique

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Carrick

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Kompany

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 23 17.2%

  • Tuchel

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 24 17.9%

  • Slot

    Votes: 17 12.7%
  • Total voters
    134
tommysvr said:
How much J.League have you watched?
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Zero but you're missing my point. You can't think of modern football in absolutes. If you only watch women's football, you might think some of these players are outstanding when, in reality, most of them wouldn't make it as professionals in a men's team. Likewise, in a poor league, you could play a brand of football that's very pleasing to the eye but inefficient against stronger opposition.

If you take a broader view, J.League isn't at the top of Asian club football and it could be argued that Asian club football is roughly on a par with African club football. My post, despite the wrong stat about the number of J.League Champions League winners, was about results. If I'm told the J.League is competitive, I want to test that idea against different level of competitions.
 
billyiddo said:
Not sure what's so hard to grasp here tbh

Entirely reasonable to hold the view that style of play is more important than trophies at any cost type football (i assume that's what you meant as i don't think I've seen anyone say they don't care about trophies) whilst also having reservations about whether or not a manager who has only worked at a very low level in comparison to the PL would be able to have the same impact here. :confused:

People on here have also made perfectly valid arguments as to why they have reservations over the likes of Potter & Nagelsmann (though I'd be happy with both) so I'm not really sure what this type of blanket post is getting at
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My point is essentially my last sentence.

And no, it's not just posters having 'reservations'. People are flat out saying it's a bad choice, he will be sacked within a season. If a poster says the facts ie his teams play good football and has shown he can turn a clubs fortunes about, but I have concerns he is yet to do it in one of the big leagues then that would be fair enough. The fact that Brighton with their statistical analaysis identified him as a serious candidate speaks volumes for me.

I think a lot of people are being short sighted and can't see beyond the fact he hasn't managed in one of the major leagues. Would people of reacted any different to this had we got de Zebri a year ago? Nope. I'm with you in that Nagelsman is the outstanding choice but if for whatever reason he can't be employed I'm all for Ange. His teams play football the right way, and there's something about his personality that tells me he's got what it takes. Every manager we look to employ has its risks, the fact he hasn't managed in one of the major leagues is the only risk I can see - but, it's one I'm willing to accept the gamble on and certainly has my support....
 
Gutter Boy said:
He Aussie guy looks like a 60 year old version of John Mcclure (the singer from the band Reverend and the Makers)
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harr1984 said:
Every manager we look to employ has its risks, the fact he hasn't managed in one of the major leagues is the only risk I can see - but, it's one I'm willing to accept the gamble on and certainly has my support....
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What irks me with Postecoglou's 'supporters' is the fact that they talk like there's come kind of prejudice or cabal against him. He certainly is a good manager but if you want to look at people who have good records nobody cares about, how about Pitso Mosimane? Won the African Champions League three times (I think). Must be good, no? How much Egyptian football do you watch? Maybe it's a competitive league?

How about Miodrag Bozovic? He won the Serbian league with Red Star and has a 75% win record there. Must be good.

Hell, there's been zero reports of Gallardo being considered!

There are plenty of people who won't be considered for the Spurs job. From all accounts, Postecoglou isn't one of them. Many people say he's one of the leading candidates. Maybe it's time to drop the 'small man complex'. There's people on here and out there who will doubt him. Deal with it. There were people on here who claimed Conte would be gone within a year. Gross was dealt a much harsher hand.
 
Mr Gogolak said:
What irks me with Postecoglou's 'supporters' is the fact that they talk like there's come kind of prejudice or cabal against him. He certainly is a good manager but if you want to look at people who have good records nobody cares about, how about Pitso Mosimane? Won the African Champions League three times (I think). Must be good, no? How much Egyptian football do you watch? Maybe it's a competitive league?

How about Miodrag Bozovic? He won the Serbian league with Red Star and has a 75% win record there. Must be good.

Hell, there's been zero reports of Gallardo being considered!

There are plenty of people who won't be considered for the Spurs job. From all accounts, Postecoglou isn't one of them. Many people say he's one of the leading candidates. Maybe it's time to drop the 'small man complex'. There's people on here and out there who will doubt him. Deal with it. There were people on here who claimed Conte would be gone within a year. Gross was dealt a much harsher hand.
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I am a Ange fan I would never accuse anyone of prejudice disrespectful yes. At the end of the day whoever gets the job will have my support. The only manager I never supported was that clam Graham still can't let it go all these years later
 
Mr Gogolak said:
What irks me with Postecoglou's 'supporters' is the fact that they talk like there's come kind of prejudice or cabal against him. He certainly is a good manager but if you want to look at people who have good records nobody cares about, how about Pitso Mosimane? Won the African Champions League three times (I think). Must be good, no? How much Egyptian football do you watch? Maybe it's a competitive league?

How about Miodrag Bozovic? He won the Serbian league with Red Star and has a 75% win record there. Must be good.

Hell, there's been zero reports of Gallardo being considered!

There are plenty of people who won't be considered for the Spurs job. From all accounts, Postecoglou isn't one of them. Many people say he's one of the leading candidates. Maybe it's time to drop the 'small man complex'. There's people on here and out there who will doubt him. Deal with it. There were people on here who claimed Conte would be gone within a year. Gross was dealt a much harsher hand.
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Think you're going off on your own tangent here mate. You quote me saying this managers risk is that he hasn't managed in a major league, but I'm ok with us taking the gamble - and your reply is to name other managers without major league experience who have done well - so what? It seems as if we are interested in this one and I'm saying I support it. If one of those who you name has similar credentials I would be open to them too, I'm ok with us taking a punt on someone who fits the criteria but hasn't managed in a major league - it has been proven that it can work. But whatever due diligence has been done it seems has led to us having an interest in Ange so I'm saying I'm open to it.....
 
kb 1984 said:
I am a Ange fan I would never accuse anyone of prejudice disrespectful yes. At the end of the day whoever gets the job will have my support. The only manager I never supported was that clam Graham still can't let it go all these years later
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You would have thought we had learned our lesson from the Terry Neill experience.
 
harr1984 said:
Think you're going off on your own tangent here mate. You quote me saying this managers risk is that he hasn't managed in a major league, but I'm ok with us taking the gamble - and your reply is to name other managers without major league experience who have done well - so what? It seems as if we are interested in this one and I'm saying I support it. If one of those who you name has similar credentials I would be open to them too, I'm ok with us taking a punt on someone who fits the criteria but hasn't managed in a major league - it has been proven that it can work. But whatever due diligence has been done it seems has led to us having an interest in Ange so I'm saying I'm open to it.....
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I should have mentioned my answer wasn't specifically linked to your post, sorry. Despite the fact that I rarely have strong or polarized opinions, I usually add some sort of disclaimer because it's easy to take things the wrong way, even more so on a message board.

Everyone's entitled to their views and, to be fair, I think my irritation says a lot more about me than it does about anyone else. I had the same 'problem' with Pochettino die-hard fans.

Yours just happens to be the last post I read while thinking about this but I apologise if I upset you. Your comments are spot on.
 
I just love thr fact that all of these posti supporters are now coming out and defending him to the hilt when there was hardly a whisper when Conte left. Not even as strong words to support their choice ... all of a sudden we have experts that have watched the j league, aussie football etc ... then forming their opinions on what others have written ...

Get a grip, this sounds like Arnie Slot Mk2 ... let's wait and see and then the "I'm so excited about posti" crowd can tell us how they have followed his career from day one ...

Whoever gets the job will get my best wishes, and perhaps a little bitter note personally that it was not Poch, Gallardo, JN as I just don't see what levy is doing apart from another punt.

Ps ... my axe is not with any new manager coming in, but more with the levy and Co having no plan or vision ... but I digress.
 
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Mr Gogolak said:
I should have mentioned my answer wasn't specifically linked to your post, sorry. Despite the fact that I rarely have strong or polarized opinions, I usually add some sort of disclaimer because it's easy to take things the wrong way, even more so on a message board.

Everyone's entitled to their views and, to be fair, I think my irritation says a lot more about me than it does about anyone else. I had the same 'problem' with Pochettino die-hard fans.

Yours just happens to be the last post I read while thinking about this but I apologise if I upset you. Your comments are spot on.
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No need to apologise, you didn't upset me at all but appreciate you being polite about it all the same! I'm with you on the Poch can do no wrong bandwagon.

My overall view is that we are not ever going to find the perfect manager. I knew nothing about Ange but do watch a fair bit of Scottish football on Sky Sports when Celtic are on and when I first saw his Celtic side play I was impressed and admit my mind got wandering to the sort of football he could get us playing. I never thought anything more to it than that, but having seen more of his videos and articles that display his personality I certainly would be intrigued with that he could do for us. It might work, it might not - my gut says it will but who knows, I'm not going to pretend to have all the answers - none of us do. But I do know we will at least play attacking football which with the personnel we have best suits us and after the past few years will be refreshing. For the time being I will settle for that....
 
Gazza said:
It's funny how this circus goes .... if and when a manager linked doesn't come then its a case of:

A) we were never interested
B) cannot trust the media

But now that it's Posti,
A) we trust the media

C) .... until its not him
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Aka whatever approach is needed to minimise any negativity that might be directed at Spurs and the board. It's actually funny to watch the contortions people make to make it all sound good. [emoji1787]

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