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New New Manager Poll (The Lets Get It Right This Time Edition)

Who Do You Want Then?

  • Poch

    Votes: 58 43.3%

  • Gallardo

    Votes: 7 5.2%

  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 2 1.5%

  • Enrique

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Carrick

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Kompany

    Votes: 1 0.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 23 17.2%

  • Tuchel

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 24 17.9%

  • Slot

    Votes: 17 12.7%
  • Total voters
    134
tommysvr said:
Who’s laughing? Fans of other clubs? The media? Who cares?
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All of those. I take a certain amount of pride in my club. I'd like us to be doing well - have an established system in place, play vaguely attractive football, not concede 3 (or 5) in the first 20 mins of a big game(!), etc etc.

If you're asking 'who cares', perhaps you dont however I do and I'd prefer it if there wasn't the chaos surrounding the club that there is at the moment
 
Okay, so I'll admit something that is likely to get me flamed on here. I stopped watching Sunday's match at 2-0. It was just all too hapless for me to take. Porro's attempt at defending for that first goal, if you can even call it an attempt, was so bad that I couldn't take any more.

When my phone flashed up with 3-0, not very long afterwards, I decided that I'd made the right decision. I spent the next hour and a half booking a holiday, which cheered me up a bit. But not enough. So I was very surprised when a friend messaged me to point out that Spurs will always let you down. I checked the score, it was 3-3...then my phone refreshed and it was 4-3. Just as well that I wasn't watching the match or I'd probably have broken something.

Since then, I've watched MotD and seen some (slightly) more extended highlights. And it seems to me that Mason did an excellent job. He changed formation early, putting an extra man in CM. That seems to have stopped the rot. Whatever he said at half time seems to have worked too. Dare I say that I saw players on the front foot, playing good attacking football? And I can hardly blame him for putting attackers on late to chase the game -- Richi at 84', then Danjuma and Moura at 90', shortly before the equaliser.

If Moura hadn't fudged up, if Jota had been sent off, we'd all be hailing a famous comeback. That shouldn't detract from Mason's efforts at in-game management. Although his pre-match team talk needs work!

Those of you who watched the full match, either at home or in the ground, is that a fair assessment?

If so, I think that's proof that this group of players CAN play, and do have some fight. They've just had their flair beaten out of them by a season of dour Conte.

Hopefully a new manager will be happy to use 3-5-2. Get a couple of decent defenders in the summer and things could be looking up.
 
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FatBloke said:
Okay, so I'll admit something that is likely to get me flamed on here. I stopped watching Sunday's match at 2-0. It was just all too hapless for me to take. Porro's attempt at defending for that first goal, if you can even call it an attempt, was so bad that I couldn't take any more.

When my phone flashed up with 3-0, not very long afterwards, I decided that I'd made the right decision. I decided to spend the next hour and a half booking a holiday instead. So I was very surprised when a friend messaged me to point out that Spurs will always let you down. I checked the score, it was 3-3...then my phone refreshed and it was 4-3. Just as well that I wasn't watching the match or I'd probably have broken something.

Since then, I've watched MotD and seen some (slightly) more extended highlights. And it seems to me that Mason did an excellent job. He changed formation early, putting an extra man in CM. That seems to have stopped the rot. Whatever he said at half time seems to have worked too. Dare I say that I saw players on the front foot, playing good attacking football? And I can hardly blame him for putting attackers on late to chase the game -- Richi at 84', then Danjuma and Moura at 90', shortly before the equaliser.

If Moura hadn't fudged up, if Jota had been sent off, we'd all be hailing a famous comeback. That shouldn't detract from Mason's efforts at in-game management. Although his pre-match team talk needs work!

Those of you who watched the full match, either at home or in the ground, is that a fair assessment?

If so, I think that's proof that this group of players CAN play, and do have some fight. They've just had their flair beaten out of them by a season of dour Conte.

Hopefully a new manager will be happy to use 3-5-2. Get a couple of decent defenders in the summer and things could be looking up.
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If you had the ability to take away the first 15 minutes (which you can't and shouldn't), we outplayed them

- We hit the woodwork 3 times
- Jota should have been off, so no way he should have been on the pitch for the winner
- Richi should have been awarded a penalty and the defender who fouled him was on a yellow already
- Between their 3rd goal and 4th, they didn't have a single shot on target
- We scored 3 at Anfield

Bad individual error at end plus dreadful ref decisions cost Mason a very credible draw/win for the 2nd time in a week.

It's still on him to get us not to shoot ourselves in the foot 3+ times in the first 20 minutes of games.
 
Telegraph saying that our move from Nagelsmann has hit an issue as JN wants to know who will be DOF first. Also that our wage budget is a possible issue too given it would prevent signing players he wants

I won't repost as behind firewall. Who knows how much truth is in it anyway
 
AdamB said:
Telegraph saying that our move from Nagelsmann has hit an issue as JN wants to know who will be DOF first. Also that our wage budget is a possible issue too given it would prevent signing players he wants

I won't repost as behind firewall. Who knows how much truth is in it anyway
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Sounds plausible
 
Raziel said:
If you had the ability to take away the first 15 minutes (which you can't and shouldn't), we outplayed them

- We hit the woodwork 3 times
- Jota should have been off, so no way he should have been on the pitch for the winner
- Richi should have been awarded a penalty and the defender who fouled him was on a yellow already
- Between their 3rd goal and 4th, they didn't have a single shot on target
- We scored 3 at Anfield

Bad individual error at end plus dreadful ref decisions cost Mason a very credible draw/win for the 2nd time in a week.

It's still on him to get us not to shoot ourselves in the foot 3+ times in the first 20 minutes of games.
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For balance it is worth mentioning here that 2 of the 3 occasions that we hit the post our player was offside and Skipp should’ve been sent off for a reckless tackle in the first half, However we were the better team by a fair margin from 20 odd minutes in. The problem is that our defending is so hapless that teams don’t have to do much at all to score against us.
 
Finney Is Back said:
For balance it is worth mentioning here that 2 of the 3 occasions that we hit the post our player was offside and Skipp should’ve been sent off for a reckless tackle in the first half, However we were the better team by a fair margin from 20 odd minutes in. The problem is that our defending is so hapless that teams don’t have to do much at all to score against us.
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What Skipp challenge was that?
 
Gazza said:
No just no, honestly ...
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Despite his public reputation, he's known in the game as an innovative manager. One of the first to make use of technology to assess games, adapted European methods of training and fitness etc. Would just be interesting to see what he would do with a top half team. I think people would be surprised. Shape and defensive solidness behind flair sounds like a good combination to me.

His Bolton teams had a nice mix and played really good football at times. Hierro,N'gotty, Campo, Jay-Jay, Speed, Djorkaeff, Gudjohnsen, Davies, Anelka etc all worked under him.
 
fernadez said:
Despite his public reputation, he's known in the game as an innovative manager. One of the first to make use of technology to assess games, adapted European methods of training and fitness etc. Would just be interesting to see what he would do with a top half team. I think people would be surprised. Shape and defensive solidness behind flair sounds like a good combination to me.

His Bolton teams had a nice mix and played really good football at times. Hierro,N'gotty, Campo, Jay-Jay, Speed, Djorkaeff, Gudjohnsen, Davies, Anelka etc all worked under him.
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Nothing like Conte or Mourinho ... im not even dissing fat Sam
 
Finney Is Back said:
For balance it is worth mentioning here that 2 of the 3 occasions that we hit the post our player was offside and Skipp should’ve been sent off for a reckless tackle in the first half, However we were the better team by a fair margin from 20 odd minutes in. The problem is that our defending is so hapless that teams don’t have to do much at all to score against us.
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It was never a red for Skipp, it was low and on top of the foot, should've been a yellow.
 
fernadez said:
Despite his public reputation, he's known in the game as an innovative manager. One of the first to make use of technology to assess games, adapted European methods of training and fitness etc. Would just be interesting to see what he would do with a top half team. I think people would be surprised. Shape and defensive solidness behind flair sounds like a good combination to me.

His Bolton teams had a nice mix and played really good football at times. Hierro,N'gotty, Campo, Jay-Jay, Speed, Djorkaeff, Gudjohnsen, Davies, Anelka etc all worked under him.
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There is (thankfully) just no way Allerdyce would work for us, no one would accept him, and he'd be working against the odds from the off.
 
AdamB said:
Telegraph saying that our move from Nagelsmann has hit an issue as JN wants to know who will be DOF first. Also that our wage budget is a possible issue too given it would prevent signing players he wants

I won't repost as behind firewall. Who knows how much truth is in it anyway
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Fair things for him to want assurances on to be fair. I would definitely have thought that we’d need to tie up a new DoF before we can tie up a manager. It would be a big mistake not to as one would hope the DoF is going to set the tone for style of play etc throughout the club.
 
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