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Ndombele

Alaric said:
It may not apply in this case, but isn't there a third option? The player realizes (as I think Eriksen did when he passed on chels or city) that he is better off going someplace where he'll get regular playing time. Granted this isn't something all players take into account (e.g. all the players Chelsea have bought an dfarmed out) but some do realize it is better long term to go where they'll get a game.
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When did Eriksen pass on Chelsea or City?
 
Finney Is Back said:
Believe me, they very rarely do (of course I am generalising here, but believe me, they generally look for the biggest pay cheque). Players may favour a certain location over another (London typically has appeal for European players for example). Young players may also choose a move to a club where they feel they have more chance of playing, but the biggest motivator remains money and if we're talking about signing players at the top end (as we now should be) those players are also going to be getting into the first team/squad at our competitors anyway so the deciding factor would be pay cheque in 95% of cases.
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Pay cheque will mostly be the deciding factor if the difference is large enough. But how large must that difference be to make it the deciding factor?

I think now perhaps we can pay enough to make it a factor with less impact. More than 5% of the time.
 
braineclipse said:
Pay cheque will mostly be the deciding factor if the difference is large enough. But how large must that difference be to make it the deciding factor?

I think now perhaps we can pay enough to make it a factor with less impact. More than 5% of the time.
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Exactly
 
nayimfromthehalfwayline said:
I think the point is, that world following will always mean they can buy their way out of it - when they get their brick together.

Look at them and Arsenal at the minute, basically in the same place (Arsenal losing the EUROPA final permitting...)

Arsenal look skint, they are struggling to balance the books and it is showing in their business and threadbare squad.

While Utd are sitting in exactly the same place, out of the top 4, stuck in EUROPA, on a downward beat...
... They can still go an spend hundreds of millions to buy the best players they can to push themselves up.

Thats where that world following pays off.
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That world following is also quite fickle IMO

Having travelled a lot it’s amazing How many “new” city fans there are... they were United not that long ago
 
Bedfordspurs said:
That world following is also quite fickle IMO

Having travelled a lot it’s amazing How many “new” city fans there are... they were United not that long ago
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It is, but in Utds case it extremely well established on the back of decades of success.

Fickle, but not likely to jump ship quite so soon IMO.
 
I wonder whether us being in the CL final - or even better, winning it - will make us more appealing to players?
 
Decisions are never one thing ..

Wages, CL football, location, facilities, manager stability, chance to be recognized or play for their national team, lack of drama, general perception of club (on up or down)

When you go through that list, we would rate quite highly on a lot

And sure, some players may say fudge it, all I care about is the first one, I'd say they are exactly the type of player we don't want.
 
Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas has stated his preference for star midfielder Tanguy Ndombele.

Ndombele is a reported target for Tottenham Hotspur, with The Mail reporting he has a £87 million (100m euros) asking price.

Aulas told Sport France he wants Ndombele to stay in France, but admits it will ultimately be up to the player to decide.

He said: "If PSG agrees to align with the two or three proposals we have, and that Tanguy, who will ultimately choose his destination, agrees, obviously it would be nice if he goes to PSG.

"I think that talented French players must be in French clubs. The PSG is the one with the most resources. It is the one who can make alternative proposals to the biggest European clubs."

Lyon's deference to PSG is sad in a sense. Long gone are the days when Lyon used to dominate French football in the early 2000s, and now they are content to defer their best player to the reigning champions.

What is interesting about Aulas' comments is that he appears to state Lyon already have offers.

L'Equipe reported last week that Ndombele has a provisional offer from Tottenham on the table, but it is unclear if the Premier League side have made a formal approach to PSG.

The defensive midfielder would be an outstanding signing for any club, but you have to consider PSG as favourites at this stage.
 
I doubt we will release any signing news before this time next week, but I think him and Anderson are looking likely.
Expect a RB and another forward to follow.
 
It would not surprise me if he is waiting so see the result on Saturday before he makes a decision, I think this also goes for a few of the big names we have, rightly or wrongly, been linked with.
 
NoLimits01 said:
It would not surprise me if he is waiting so see the result on Saturday before he makes a decision, I think this also goes for a few of the big names we have, rightly or wrongly, been linked with.
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I'm not sure that the result in one game makes the slightest difference. He'd either be interested in us and what we can offer, both on the pitch and financially, or he wouldn't

I'd think that players might more wait to see whether we're planning to be competitive in the transfer market this summer, given the last two windows, before they agree to join us given that an up and coming player would want to join a team with ambition
 
AdamB said:
I'm not sure that the result in one game makes the slightest difference. He'd either be interested in us and what we can offer, both on the pitch and financially, or he wouldn't

I'd think that players might more wait to see whether we're planning to be competitive in the transfer market this summer, given the last two windows, before they agree to join us given that an up and coming player would want to join a team with ambition
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Hazard changed his opinion after Chelsea won the CL but I generally agree with the post, we're either attractive or not. The result in a one off game shouldn't change anything.
 
P.D. said:
Hazard changed his opinion after Chelsea won the CL but I generally agree with the post, we're either attractive or not. The result in a one off game shouldn't change anything.
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Wasn't that the year that they finished 5th, i.e. the wouldn't have been in the CL the following season if they hadn't won it? Not quite the same as our situation, where we've qualified regardless.

I just wondered whether it would be better to end up in Pot 1 or Pot 2, seeing that there'll be at least three English sides in Pot 1. Here's how I think it looks:

Win on Saturday => Spurs in Pot 1 => Real, Atletico, Dortmund, Napoli, Shakhtar, Porto*, Ajax*
Lose on Saturday => Spurs in Pot 2 => Barcelona, Bayern, Juve, PSG, Zenit

* unconfirmed

On balance, I'd much rather be in Pot 1.

Totally the wrong thread for this, I know.
 
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