Moussa Sissoko

[Lemonade Money]

He's absolute pony, bless him.

To the untrained eye, yes. But if you could see what Poch can see, we have potentially unearthed the heir to Andy Reid's throne.

 

[Gutter Boy]

...and he actually had a shot on goal.

Isn't there a stat going around that he's actually tripped over the ball more times than he's had a shot on target this season?

 

[Robspur12]

They haven't played well (arguably). Sissoko has looked completely out of place. There's a difference for me.

It sounds like you are splitting hairs to make your point tbh

Part of what people were saying last summer was that he was older and PL proven so he would fit in quicker.

Indeed but a player still needs game time to get to grips with the pace and system of his new team. Ben Davies has done brilliantly but struggled in his intial games while he became accustomed to our system. Son struggled last season after coming back from injury. Dier and Eriksen suffered drops in form in the early part of the season and improved markedly later on. Poch's system is physically and mentally tough, players need to work their way into it. Hardly surprising then that all the new players who have had limited minutes on the pitch have struggled with their form. I would give them a preseason with plenty of game time before casting any of them aside.

A player wouldn't have to oust Eriksen, Alli or Son to improve our team. An effective rotation, impact or even backup player could have done quite a bit for us. Sissoko hasn't. It's a fallacy to think that either a player is as good as one of our starters or he is of no use to us.

No but I can't think of many players with limited game time who can just slot in seamlessly. In a way Davies has been 'lucky' that Rose has been absent for an extended period giving him more game time. If he had to cover a few minutes here and there he would probably look out of place.

 

[parklane1]

No matter what some fans say a lot of the abuse comes from the fact we paid 30 mill for him, the same fans were those who gave a lot of abuse to Lamela when he first came here. Transfer fees are bloody stupid in todays game and its not a players fault what a club pays for them. But there are some who can see past that.

 

[parklane1]

No but I can't think of many players with limited game time who can just slot in seamlessly. In a way Davies has been 'lucky' that Rose has been absent for an extended period giving him more game time. If he had to cover a few minutes here and there he would probably look out of place.

Spot on, there were a lot of fans who thought Davies was not up to playing for us but since he has had a run of games in the team he has proved he is.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Spot on, there were a lot of fans who thought Davies was not up to playing for us but since he has had a run of games in the team he has proved he is.

Davies has had the benefit of knowing he will get games as ross was injured. To me that makes a player much less nervous about their performance

 

[parklane1]

Davies has had the benefit of knowing he will get games as ross was injured. To me that makes a player much less nervous about their performance

Indeed, its not rocket science but there are fans who can not see it.

 

[Jordinho]

Claims in the French media have stated Marseille are keen to bring the player back to Ligue 1 and the club are ready to launch an official bid.

However, speaking to Foot Mercato, a ‘member of Sissoko’s entourage‘ has quickly moved to dismiss talk of a move to Marseille.

“As of today, there has been no contact, no appointment or any proposal from Marseille,” the source is quoted as telling the French media outlet.

“They are just rumours, though we have heard about them.

“There is strictly no contact either between Moussa, his agents, or Marseille.”

 

[NaijaSpurs]

I do not think he played in the last 2 France internationals and with the World Cup next year he will probably have to move to regain his spot just as Chadli had to move for the same reason. When you don't play first team football unless you are regarded as one of the pillars of your international team you risk losing your place

 

[DeleHarry]

Marseille would be a good move. They are rich so can satisfy his financial demands. They are putting together a decent side under Garcia who is a good coach.

Go on Moussa, ya know it makes sense

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

Davies has had the benefit of knowing he will get games as ross was injured. To me that makes a player much less nervous about their performance

It is like the difference between shagging your wife or an escort, you have all the time in the world to cum with your wife but when the escort says hurry up you only have 5 minutes left, suddenly you feel the pressure and think brick i better take the gag out and get down to business.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

Marseille would be a good move. They are rich so can satisfy his financial demands. They are putting together a decent side under Garcia who is a good coach.

Go on Moussa, ya know it makes sense

If they have money they should take that Njee lad permanent as well then.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I do not think he played in the last 2 France internationals and with the World Cup next year he will probably have to move to regain his spot just as Chadli had to move for the same reason. When you don't play first team football unless you are regarded as one of the pillars of your international team you risk losing your place

And chadli has dropped down the pecking g order at West Brom as the season has gone on

 

[NaijaSpurs]

And chadli has dropped down the pecking g order at West Brom as the season has gone on

I guess he must have started well and then his form dropped

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I guess he must have started well and then his form dropped

He has

Speaking to a few Brom fans then think Pulis has broken him

 

[Robspur12]

He has

Speaking to a few Brom fans then think Pulis has broken him

I doubt it. His form was always inconsistent. World beater one minute dissapear the next. I can see why Poch favoured Son over Chadli.

 

[NaijaSpurs]

He has

Speaking to a few Brom fans then think Pulis has broken him

I think he a very negative manager

 

[braineclipse]

It sounds like you are splitting hairs to make your point tbh

Indeed but a player still needs game time to get to grips with the pace and system of his new team. Ben Davies has done brilliantly but struggled in his intial games while he became accustomed to our system. Son struggled last season after coming back from injury. Dier and Eriksen suffered drops in form in the early part of the season and improved markedly later on. Poch's system is physically and mentally tough, players need to work their way into it. Hardly surprising then that all the new players who have had limited minutes on the pitch have struggled with their form. I would give them a preseason with plenty of game time before casting any of them aside.

No but I can't think of many players with limited game time who can just slot in seamlessly. In a way Davies has been 'lucky' that Rose has been absent for an extended period giving him more game time. If he had to cover a few minutes here and there he would probably look out of place.

I think there's been a qualitative difference between Janssen and Sissoko. I don't think that's splitting hairs.

Ben Davies has gained match fitness. He's shown before that he can play very well in our system.

In terms of game time to get to grips with the pace and system Sissoko has more league game time than all of Janssen, Nkoudou (and Wimmer) this season. Janssen is close, Nkoudou is nowhere near. Yet to me Sissoko has looked the most out of place of those players this season.

 

[parklane1]

I think he a very negative manager

A bit of a understatement that mate.

 

[Robspur12]

I think there's been a qualitative difference between Janssen and Sissoko. I don't think that's splitting hairs.

Ben Davies has gained match fitness. He's shown before that he can play very well in our system.

In terms of game time to get to grips with the pace and system Sissoko has more league game time than all of Janssen, Nkoudou (and Wimmer) this season. Janssen is close, Nkoudou is nowhere near. Yet to me Sissoko has looked the most out of place of those players this season.

You will have to be more specific in regards to this qualitative difference. Sissoko has more assists, Jansen, more goals. Sissoko made important contributions at both Palace away and Leicester. Janssen looked sharp coming on against Leicester but I can't say he was "better." Nkoudou has not done much of note as a sub so I am not sure how he has looked "less out of place" than Sissoko who has actually contributed in matches he has played. All of these players have suffered because of the stop start nature of their appearance this season. You can say Sissoko has had more game time in terms of actual minutes on the pitch but it is still difficult to make a case that he has had anything other than a stop start season. In fact for a couple of games (I believe one was against Burnley at home) he played very well, not out of place at all.

Ben Davies has gained "match fitness" by having a run of games in the side, but to start off with he was getting pelters for not being Danny Rose. Your arguments just seems a little subjective to me and not really backed up by anything other than a dislike for Sissoko.