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Modric - No Longer A Spurs Player

Just to make this clear for everyone, Real Madrid did not pick up the phone and call Luka Modric's cell. They contacted his agent/reps.

But fantastically, Levy has won again!!!!! Looks like Modric/his people have been forced to accept his conduct is unbecoming to anyone looking on. NOW would be a GREAT time for Luka to sack his reps, but he will not be able to, even though deep down, I feel he would rather sign a new deal for more money and get the fudge on with his Spurs career given that it appears Madrid have lost their "cheap-down" game...I would not be alarmed to see Madrid finally give in, but at least this shows everyone not to try fudging with Levy again...

come on, look i respect your opinion that his advisors are influencing Modric, but why would Modric be happy about signing a new contract at Spurs rather than joining Real Madrid?????? He has no ties to Spurs, he is a footballer, footballers mpove around, want to win trophies, want to earn stacks of money. Modric"s best mate Corluka has gone, his other countryman Kranjcar has gone, why on earth would Modric deep down want to sign a new contract with Spurs
 
Happy with these statements. Shows we will not be fudged around by neither Modric (or was that his advisors/the Croatian mafia...?) nor Real Madrid. And at the same time it leaves the door open for Modric to continue playing for Spurs without grudges, as long as he's professional about it. No bridges burned.
 
come on, look i respect your opinion that his advisors are influencing Modric, but why would Modric be happy about signing a new contract at Spurs rather than joining Real Madrid?????? He has no ties to Spurs, he is a footballer, footballers mpove around, want to win trophies, want to earn stacks of money. Modric"s best mate Corluka has gone, his other countryman Kranjcar has gone, why on earth would Modric deep down want to sign a new contract with Spurs


You are right...if Real Madrid really DO want to sign him, and really ARE prepared to pay the asking price, then absolutely, bang-on,I agree, Modric (like most people I suspect) would want to join Real Madrid.

But as of now, Madrid don't actually want him as badly as they appeared to, because they are not prepared to pay the market rate/Levy's price. Thus I personally believe that Modric is the sort of player who would rather get on with it here.
 
Happy with these statements. Shows we will not be fudged around by neither Modric (or was that his advisors/the Croatian mafia...?) nor Real Madrid. And at the same time it leaves the door open for Modric to continue playing for Spurs without grudges, as long as he's professional about it. No bridges burned.

Agreed.

The ONE thing it appears we can ALL agree on, is that Levy is doing the right thing, and what he wants is the driver here. Good stuff.
 
Good interview from AVB - I really like the way he comes across (hopefully he's learnt his lesson from Chelsea), very little weasel wording, to the point

BTW - at which point would someone tell him it's pronounced Totn'hum
 
There will always be exceptions Affy, I dont imagine a 25 year old millionaire sportsman is one of them though.

i agree with this totally. well almost totally cause for me i think this guy is just pushing it, WHATEVER his motives are . When you make that kind of money you will always have people tugging at you, making you do things etc but like you said at the end of the day someone has to say "okay do it" or "okay i will do it"...

and with all due respect to the news and gossip that steff may receive , i think a guy earning 80K plus a week needs to take significant accountability
 
You are right...if Real Madrid really DO want to sign him, and really ARE prepared to pay the asking price, then absolutely, bang-on,I agree, Modric (like most people I suspect) would want to join Real Madrid.

But as of now, Madrid don't actually want him as badly as they appeared to, because they are not prepared to pay the market rate/Levy's price. Thus I personally believe that Modric is the sort of player who would rather get on with it here.

like any club, they put a value on a player....they have deemed Modric to be worth 27.5 mill pounds, plus further add ons (according to Perez, reports)

just because they dont bend to Levy's 40 mill pound valuation doesnt mean that they dont want him desperately, just like Spurs probably dont want to pay 30 mill for Moutinho even though they see him as the ideal replacement for Modric

i personally dont believe that Modric would easily get over not being able to go to Madrid. This is a massive move, opportunity for ANY player. How many times do these mega elite clubs ever come calling. It will be devastating for him if it all collapses.

however, he also needs to behave and let the clubs come to an agreement. Im sure the clubs can find a middle ground and Modric will get his move and we will be well compensated and will move on.
 
Do you genuinely believe that Luka Modric is acting alone? Because that's at the heart of the discussion here IMHO, whether people believe he is acting alone or acting under advisement from people under whom he has some curiously strong and convincing spell with regards to how he goes about his business.

I would like to say that Luka Modric's CAMP ARE BEING DISRUPTIVE. In my opinion, it is foolish to think the player is acting alone and independently of any outside advice/counsel/strategy.

of course he's not acting alone, but i not going to put the entirety of the blame on his agent or whoever. He's in the thick of this thing

why is it his camp and not Luka modric AND his camp? where did luka go in all this?
 
like any club, they put a value on a player....they have deemed Modric to be worth 27.5 mill pounds, plus further add ons (according to Perez, reports)

just because they dont bend to Levy's 40 mill pound valuation doesnt mean that they dont want him desperately, just like Spurs probably dont want to pay 30 mill for Moutinho even though they see him as the ideal replacement for Modric

i personally dont believe that Modric would easily get over not being able to go to Madrid. This is a massive move, opportunity for ANY player. How many times do these mega elite clubs ever come calling. It will be devastating for him if it all collapses.

however, he also needs to behave and let the clubs come to an agreement. Im sure the clubs can find a middle ground and Modric will get his move and we will be well compensated and will move on.

Agreed, both clubs have set a price. However, our price is forced and below his true value to us. If we really had the option of him seeing out his contract for four years, his value on the pitch would probably outweigh the lost transfer fee. The reality is we can't sign a player of Modric's quality at his peak so in that sense he is irreplaceable to us.

In contrast, the Madrid price is below a true market price. Madrid know they can usually get the players they want and know they have other options. They also know players want to move to them and can use it to bully the selling clubs. So while both clubs have set a price, its not a free market price. We, of course, use our status to get players from other clubs in a similar manner.

If we don't come to an agreement, it will because we value Modric more. In a sensible world, he should be upset with Madrid for not valuing him enough. Its hardly our fault if Madrid think they have better options at that price. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way and would be harder for Modric to play full-heartedly for us next season even if he was trying to.

P.S. On the blame game, Modric is responsible for his actions and a willing participant. No one is forcing him to be unprofessional and break his contract. The agent, though, will have played a big role in determining the tactics, probably with help from Real Madrid.
 
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Nope. Jordy framed it perfectly. I said that Modric was NOT 100% calling his shots, that he was being steered/advised/corralled...put it this way, I do not think that Luka Modric would've gone on strike without pressure from his "people" and Madrid via his "people"...his "people" have a great influence on his life. He is not the sharpest tool in the shed...


This is where Im struggling Steff. It may be the way Im reading the post but it seems kind of ambiguous to me. "Nope [I am not absolving him of responsibility]" OK, Im with you here - and preparing to apoliogise for the misunderstanding, then "Modric was not 100% calling his shots" Errr - What!? Hold your horses here!

In my book he is responsible. He might get leaned on, he might get bad advice, he might be the mastermind behind it all - none of that matters - what matters is that it is HIS decision to act upon these ideas (where ever they come from)
 
This is where Im struggling Steff. It may be the way Im reading the post but it seems kind of ambiguous to me. "Nope [I am not absolving him of responsibility]" OK, Im with you here - and preparing to apoliogise for the misunderstanding, then "Modric was not 100% calling his shots" Errr - What!? Hold your horses here!

In my book he is responsible. He might get leaned on, he might get bad advice, he might be the mastermind behind it all - none of that matters - what matters is that it is HIS decision to act upon these ideas (where ever they come from)

I don't think your views and Steff's are incompatible. Its quite possible that Modric wouldn't have gone on strike without advice from his agents, as Steff believes. However, if so, he has willingly followed the advice and is 100% responsible for his actions, as you say.
 
Of all the aspects of football to have blighted the game over the years are stoopid, disloyal, greedy players, and even greedier (but not necessarily as stoopider) agents/Reps. Surely we've realised this by now...?

Why else was Ledley SUCH a rarity... (the loyalty bit, not the falling out of nightclubs bit!)

I love(d) Luka as a player, and by all accounts he's a pretty decent human being when seedy corrupt agents aren't whispering in his little rat-ear... but of COURSE he has no true, deep down affiliation with Spurs... but then again, why would he have one with Real Madrid...? 'cos they're 'famouser' and more successful than we are...? surely it can't be that they play in all white... ah, hang on
 
Agreed, both clubs have set a price. However, our price is forced and below his true value to us. If we really had the option of him seeing out his contract for four years, his value on the pitch would probably outweigh the lost transfer fee. The reality is we can't sign a player of Modric's quality at his peak so in that sense he is irreplaceable to us.

In contrast, the Madrid price is below a true market price. Madrid know they can usually get the players they want and know they have other options. They also know players want to move to them and can use it to bully the selling clubs. So while both clubs have set a price, its not a free market price. We, of course, use our status to get players from other clubs in a similar manner.

If we don't come to an agreement, it will because we value Modric more. In a sensible world, he should be upset with Madrid for not valuing him enough. Its hardly our fault if Madrid think they have better options at that price. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way and would be harder for Modric to play full-heartedly for us next season even if he was trying to.

P.S. On the blame game, Modric is responsible for his actions and a willing participant. No one is forcing him to be unprofessional and break his contract. The agent, though, will have played a big role in determining the tactics, probably with help from Real Madrid.

but if we sell Modric for 33 mill, and buy Moutinho for 31 mill, id say we have done well as Moutinho will prove to just as effective
 
but if we sell Modric for 33 mill, and buy Moutinho for 31 mill, id say we have done well as Moutinho will prove to just as effective


And we'd have lost money because we'd have to pay Luka's Loyalty fee and Moutinho's signing on bonus and agents fees.
 
I never said this and both you and Sheikh know that very well. Yet you keep attributing such a stance to me. =D>

I am sorry I don't fit into your system of how forum posters should behave. Either pro this or anti that, be it Harry Redknapp, AVB, Defoe, Modric, tactics or transfers.

Of course to you I am allready branded 'revisionist' and something alone the lines of 'deluded Luka Modric fanboy', and that is all well, I am really not active enough on this forum to be bothered by that.


As for your question; how do I react to Luka Modric refusing to travel to the US, refusing to train in order to force a move to Real Madrid for too low a fee for us is depending on a lot of variables. But let us think of the worst case scenario for me. Luka Modric actively forces this along. If that is the case I want him sold, nowhere near the squad and out the PL as fast as possible.

And I can say that without changing my stance one tiny little bit.

you know what, i owe you an apology. its true , you didnt technically say that he didnt do anything wrong but you insinuated that until we have irrefutable proof wwith quotes that he isnt guilty of anything, which is fair enough

i apologise for making it out that you actually said modric hadnt done anything but fact of the matter is that coming through with the questioning of if he really wanted to leave chelsea was what was making me think that you were going to longer lengths to try and put a doubt on the brick he pulled last year and the brick he pulled this year. why would anyone want to question what he said and the result of how he behaved a whole year later?

but anyway you clearly didnt say he didnt do anything , but i do think you insinuated it. if you didnt then i got that wrong and the fact that you jumped in when i voiced my opinion that he was puling stunts was just you playing devils advocate to temper the reaction luka was getting after years of service
 
but if we sell Modric for 33 mill, and buy Moutinho for 31 mill, id say we have done well as Moutinho will prove to just as effective

All transfers come with a risk. We know Modric is effective in our team, Moutinho might not. There are loads of apparently good transfers that don't work out and its often not clear why. Moutinho's familiarity with AVB is a plus and reduces the risk, but we still don't know it will work.

If we had a choice of Modric or Moutinho playing for us for the next few years, Modric is by far the safer choice. That safety has to be worth more than £2m.

Personally I like the Liverpool method used for Torres and Carroll. We want Moutinho and £10m for Modric. If Moutinho costs £31m, then demand £41m from Madrid, if only £25m then let Modric go for £35m, and so on. I doubt we can link the deals, but if we can get Moutinho for less we can reduce the asking price for Modric to get the deal done.
 
And we'd have lost money because we'd have to pay Luka's Loyalty fee and Moutinho's signing on bonus and agents fees.

if this twit really wants to leave, he should at least hand in an official transfer request and forget about any signing on bonuses and loyalty fees. If i was Levy id make this very clear. You wanna go, hand in the request and then we take it from there

this applies to any player
 
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