Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
MV only has 6 months to run, so I don't think we could do a buy-back clause, like we did with Azzouli.
A 1-2 year extension, with either a top 6-month loan, or an immediate promotion to the first team squad, would be ideal.
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Milos Veljkovic
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MV only has 6 months to run, so I don't think we could do a buy-back clause, like we did with Azzouli.
A 1-2 year extension, with either a top 6-month loan, or an immediate promotion to the first team squad, would be ideal.
Yiddo
Jack Jull
I'm sorry and i have not seen much of MV but if Poch doesn't rate him then i have 100% faith in this. He obviously is not as good as people are making out or something behind the scene has put Poch off (bad trainer, attitude etc.).
I think Poch is abit more qualified than we are judging young players and with his track record not many can argue. Also if MV was that good why are we not sending him out on loan to a Premier League side?
I think Poch is abit more qualified than we are judging young players and with his track record not many can argue. Also if MV was that good why are we not sending him out on loan to a Premier League side?
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Alder and Verts have played more minutes this season than just about any EPL player. That can't be sustained.
milo
Jack L. Jones
Do you remember who and on what forums?
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I think, having tried to trace it back, this "It seems there is another new offer on the table as well" was the origin of it (even though the poster thinks he'll still move elsewhere):
http://www.spurscommunity.co.uk/ind...ority-for-january.121859/page-24#post-4855040
Agree, but that makes it even more weird that Wimmer hasn't had more games in the EL
milo
Jack L. Jones
I'd be very surprised if we did not see him against Monaco
Yoof
Tony Parks
It was from @thfcacademy who is usually very reliable
I'd still be surprised if he were to stay though.
JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
Oh really? Wolfsburg agreed to that did they?
We had a first option on Massimo Luongo but nothing confirmed (I believe) on Ismail, just a rumour about a £6 million clause.
Yes but he could have played more.....how many games can TA and JV play in a season (incl internationals) without being burned out? They'll get close to 60 this season
milo
Jack L. Jones
It is not unusual for managers to be reluctant to rotate CBs particularly if they are playing well
Yoof
Tony Parks
And even if such a clause were true, it would still require Azzaoui to want to come back to Spurs. I think the best we can hope for with him is that we have a nice sell on clause and he develops into a good player.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Can't do much other than try.
If a loan deal to Brentford along with a new contract with us really is beneath him at this point in his career there's not really much we can do about it.
Those kinds of deals are becoming increasingly common. Barca in particular have had quite a few of them, also Real with Carvajal.
Obviously only speculation at this point, but doesn't seem beyond possible that we have a deal like that in place.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
If that is the case then I would question the players attitude and/or the advice that he is getting from his agent.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
A loan to a prem club would probably result in a best case scenario of the player making the bench.
I would imagine Brentford have been chosen as they are a London club (so not too much upheaval for the player), play good football and (assuming he puts in the effort in training) the player has a good likelihood of holding down a first team place. Playing Championship level football at this stage of his career will be extremely beneficial for Veljkovic. Sitting on a subs bench (or worse) for a PL team won't help him develop at all.
alekaras
The ITK of IDK
That's a good point. I assumed he would be good enough for a starting spot in a lower half Prem team.
He's barely played any senior football at all in his career so far. Bottom half teams and their old school managers tend to go with experience (ie. tried and tested mediocrity) in the second half of a season.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Quite possibly, but not necessarily.
With a lot of talented young players in the academy and reserves, as well as a well functioning first team with real cover in most positions, it's possible that the current plan for Veljkovic at Spurs just isn't enough for him and that his concerns are warranted. With Alderweireld and Vertonghen quite possibly first choice for 3-4 years down the line, Wimmer ahead of him in the queue and Carter-Vickers possibly the greater talent at centre back it could be that the best thing for his development is a move right now. At DM it's a similar story with Dier and Bentaleb...
I've long thought that losing a few talents that turn out to be very good players to other clubs is a direct and just about unavoidable consequence of having a highly functioning academy and development setup.
I don't think that should be the case. Mason has stepped up from a League One loan, Pritchard was brought back with a plan to be used (according to Poch) after a Championship loan. Of course Alli stepped up from League One too, though in rather different circumstances.
The important thing shouldn't be if it's PL or Championship. Rather if it's a club with a style that suits the player that will be likely to use the player frequently. Mason at Swindon and Pritchard at Swindon then Brentford were very good loan deals, there's no reason to think that PL loan deals would have done them any better.