Mighty Spurs vs SCBC

[Pirate55]

In the big scheme of things, you're bang on. We're still in pole position for fourf place.

Thats as may be, but if we play like we did today CL is a pipe dream.

 

[DubSpur]

Exactly my point. This is why we need a centre forward. Kane prefers to play as a 10. We have noone who can hold up the play up front.

No, the reason we didn't have anyone to hold up the play is because we didn't have anyone that could get the ball it into Kane. You could have 4 CFs but if the ball doesn't get to them they aren't going to do anything. When Bentancur came on that changed and we got a foothold in the game and started to get the ball into Son and Kane.

 

[Nexus1967]

Kulusevski is typical of the players we keep signing. If he was that great Emirates Marketing Project ManU or any of 6 other money doped clubs would have paid 60 mil for him and paid him £200K per week. It`s a sad fact that that is what top football is all about now. Until we start paying big fees and big wages we will be signing cast offs from Real PSG and Barca to name a few. And unless we get Champions league football no top players will join us. Saudi Sportswashing Machine will overtake us now they have mad money, it might take a few years like it did initially with Emirates Marketing Project but its going to happen

 

[greatwhitenorf]

Blimey, what's up with you lot, where are the threat starters hiding? Let's get this show on the road:

Place: World's best stadium, N17, where else
Time: Wednesday 9th February 2022, 7.45
Time to show that we have shaken off our sexy aptitude for not winning when it counts.
Likely line up with the subs to make the difference if it ain't going to plan...did I hear that Southampton have lost just once in the last 8??
Lloris
Emerson Royal
Sanchez
Romero
Davies
Reguilon
Hojbjerg
Skipp (sub Bentancur 61)
Moura (sub Kulusevski, 61)
Son
Kane

COYS and Sonny to get back to scoring again........

Blimey. Blimey. What a weak word to use to start off an OMT. An expression of feeble, befuddled confusion.

Not a word to begin an OMT with. Ever. Or Ever Again.

 

[90291Spur]

Yeah I think that's a good point. You could see early we had a problem in midfield from a numbers perspective. That two of our midfielders were Winks and PEH just made it worse.

Defied belief that Conte left it continue for so long.

Maybe, instead of trying to pick a fight after son scored, he could have tried made the defending better. Standing off Ward-Prowse TWICE IS NOT A GREAT TACTIC.

 

[greatwhitenorf]

Thats as may be, but if we play like we did today CL is a pipe dream.

Those at fault are already cuffed to chains, drenched in cold water and enduring electrical jolts through clamps biting into their dangleberts and nipples.

It's not going to happen again.

 

[SpurMeUp]

No, the reason we didn't have anyone to hold up the play is because we didn't have anyone that could get the ball it into Kane. You could have 4 CFs but if the ball doesn't get to them they aren't going to do anything. When Bentancur came on that changed and we got a foothold in the game and started to get the ball into Son and Kane.

Only criticism of Bentancur tho was not knowing Ward-prowes needed to be closed down. He needed to be aware and stop Powes firing in the cross for their second goal.

 

[Glenda's Legs]

Just reflecting on my way home.
That was a depressing watch. There was a feel good factor after Saturday when we played reasonably well and showed a lot of attacking intent. Tonight, Southampton had our number and they deserved the win.
I guess it illustrates we are not as good as we might like to think we are and there is still a huge amount of improvement work needed. Luckily we have the best manager for the task but I think we will have to expect substandard performances like tonight along the way.
Maybe I’m just trying to cheer myself up.

 

[Baleforce]

Thats as may be, but if we play like we did today CL is a pipe dream.

I think it will go the wire, just because all of the teams in the hunt for it, are brick

oh, and we have the best manager of the bunch, although we did last season too

 

[glasgowspur]

they've had good performances in mid to lower half teams for whom the sky doesn't fall in if they lose a game, the pressure and expectation just isn't the same, look how maguire and stones dropped off

I like Sanchez, we can work with him, better the devil you know

The only difference is the nationality, maguire and stones are English so hyped to the rafters.
Maguire is a cart horse, stones has some talent with the ball but can't defend. If stones was a Tottenham player the media would crucify him.

 

[greatwhitenorf]

I'm not going to dwell on this dreadful performance anymore.

Taking comfort right now with thoughts of a warm mid-June trip to Chicago for two performances that have to be better - Steely Dan with Snarky Puppy as the opening act. The culmination of a five-day getaway for my wife and I. We'll come home to the hype and hoopla of Canada playing at the World Cup for only the second time. Maybe ripping the Muvvaland a new one.

By then, this match and this result will have never happened.

 

[glasgowspur]

Just reflecting on my way home.
That was a depressing watch. There was a feel good factor after Saturday when we played reasonably well and showed a lot of attacking intent. Tonight, Southampton had our number and they deserved the win.
I guess it illustrates we are not as good as we might like to think we are and there is still a huge amount of improvement work needed. Luckily we have the best manager for the task but I think we will have to expect substandard performances like tonight along the way.
Maybe I’m just trying to cheer myself up.

We are good, technically, but weak.

 

[We are Tottenham]

I think it's a combination of your two points. If you stand off us and give us 15m per pass, even donkeys like Sanchez, Winks, Davies et al will look like passable players. And sometimes teams do because they fear Son, Kane et al on the counter.

If you press us, even a little bit, those brainless donkeys collapse and fold like a pack of cards. Soton tried it. They got 4 points off us this season because of it.

It seems like we've only added to that problem with Royal and Hojbjerg, two more players who have concrete cinder-blocks for feet.

The problem only grows because the other players who we rely on, Dier et al, are also like this. I can't think of one press-resistant player in our entire side - no one can keep the ball when pressed.

I have to say that being able to hold on to the ball is an important point. Moura can do it ocasionally and Kane keeps well and sometimes ends up with his frrekick that hes useless at! If you have more players with the skill to hold onto the ball the confidence will grow throughout the team..so ,yes a very important point..trouble is like you say most of the players can't do that..its about having the skill
and to be comfortable on the ball knowing you can move quickly and pass..

 

[seaside spur]

I know it’s standard to just hate on all our players after a defeat, but I must say I was impressed with Southampton. Can see why they drew with City and beat West Ham away with an identical score line. Thought it was a good game of football actually, shame about the result….

A lot of the credit has to go to Hassenhutl , I think he's s top manager working on a very limited budget yet has the Saints playing good football and finishing mid table despite the odd big defeat he sticks to his principles and has then well organised especially in their collective pressing.
Could Pep do any better at Southampton with their budget ?

 

[Spoonman]

Just reflecting on my way home.
That was a depressing watch. There was a feel good factor after Saturday when we played reasonably well and showed a lot of attacking intent. Tonight, Southampton had our number and they deserved the win.
I guess it illustrates we are not as good as we might like to think we are and there is still a huge amount of improvement work needed. Luckily we have the best manager for the task but I think we will have to expect substandard performances like tonight along the way.
Maybe I’m just trying to cheer myself up.

I agree, it was a sobering night. Despite improvements made by Conte alot of our first 11 are still not good enough for a club with ambitions to challenge at the very top. Much work to be done.

 

[Mikey10]

Coutinho had another good game for Villa, I see. A goal and two assists.

Still think he would have been a great signing for us.

 

[seaside spur]

£26m did we pay for Royal. What a waste of money, as I said right from the start, when rumours about him joining us began. Can't run, can't pass, can't cross, lacks awareness. The only thing he's got, is 1 vs 1 defensively, where he's actually pretty good.

I would have liked your post because I agreed with everything you said except for the last sentence which I disagreed with quite strongly.
He's hopeless at everything. Only 23?
If he was going to make it , I would expect better performances from a teenager.

 

[Baleforce]

Coutinho had another good game for Villa, I see. A goal and two assists.

against Leeds though

 

[Finney Is Back]

Lets face it we were beaten by the better side on the day. From the first whistle they were all over us, had over 75% of the possession and we couldn't get out of our half. We got lucky with the own goal and scored from one of our very few chances. I hate to think what the XG was but it was certainly a thouroughly deserved result for Southampton. We conceded the initiative from the start and never wrestled it back. Even when we were ahead they were still all over us.

Yes we had Dier and Skipp out and our defence was pretty awful at times. But our midfield never established a foothold in the match. Reason - we don't have a centre forward who can hold the ball up and allow us time to get men forward. Kane had one of his No 10 games and never competed with their centre halves. Result - the ball just keeps coming back for us to defend. Southampton's passing game and crossing were almost always spot on, ours however was our usual poor delivery (the two goals excepted). Unless we sign a top centre forward who can hold the ball up we will always be susceptible to these type of teams.

Well done to Southampton, hard for me to say, but they really deserved all three points today. We simply must start on the front foot against Wolves on Sunday to try and repair some of the damage caused tonight.

Agree we were beaten by the better team. Completely disagree that it had anything to do with our centre forward.

I thought we lost the game as Hassenhuttel won the tactical battle. Looked to me as though Southampton played an aggressive 442, playing high up. The midfield played reasonably narrow giving them a numerical advantage and their two full backs got high up, turning our 3 at the back into 5 at the back. Southampton’s two up front meant that our 3 CBs couldn’t dictate play like Conte’s tactics rely on.

When you have 3 players in the team who are appalling when pressed (Hojbjerg, Winks and Sanchez) it is always going to be difficult against a team that has a well orchestrated press as Southampton do. There was lots of space between Southampton’s midfield and defence. But because Winks and Hojbjerg are so weak on the ball we very rarely got a ball into that danger area from where we could build good attacks.l (and several times Moura and Kane had got into that position in space only to not get the ball)

I fear any team who plays a well orchestrated press against us if we are playing any two of the three of Winks, Hojbjerg and Sanchez.

 

[SouthStand322]

Could not cope with their press from the first minute. Thought the players lacking in technique got shown up tonight. Hojberg and royal stood out especially