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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked

Will say it once more. Poch is not a good enough coach for Europe. For EPL to finish in the CL places, yes. He needs to get a plan B.
 
He's like our players - young, improving. He's the right manager for us

Well it is in Levy's hands. As I mentioned, I would be uncomfortable if we kept this level of performance in Europe. Poch has been exposed tactically in every single European game this season.
 
Yeah, he was soundly beaten by a better coach, to be honest. Over both legs - the tactical switch in the first utterly bamboozled both him and the team, and here we were thoroughly outplayed by a team that simply gave more than we did.

Again, that 'Top Ten Coaches in the World' nomination is laughably premature, imo. He's a very good manager, and could become a great one -but he has limitations, next to no experience at the top level, has won absolutely nothing whatsoever and often looks utterly lost when Plan A (which is usually quite good) is countered by a tactical switch or a better opponent.

Roger Schmidt beat him, and beat him well.
 
Yeah, he was soundly beaten by a better coach, to be honest. Over both legs - the tactical switch in the first utterly bamboozled both him and the team, and here we were thoroughly outplayed by a team that simply gave more than we did.

Again, that 'Top Ten Coaches in the World' nomination is laughably premature, imo. He's a very good manager, and could become a great one -but he has limitations, next to no experience at the top level, has won absolutely nothing whatsoever and often looks utterly lost when Plan A (which is usually quite good) is countered by a tactical switch or a better opponent.

Roger Schmidt beat him, and beat him well.

The part in bold I strongly agree with. The Arsenal match will show if indeed his tactic has been decoded by opponents.
 
Well it is in Levy's hands. As I mentioned, I would be uncomfortable if we kept this level of performance in Europe. Poch has been exposed tactically in every single European game this season.

Its not Europe - we've been brick in the league this season as well
 
Yeah, he was soundly beaten by a better coach, to be honest. Over both legs - the tactical switch in the first utterly bamboozled both him and the team, and here we were thoroughly outplayed by a team that simply gave more than we did.

Again, that 'Top Ten Coaches in the World' nomination is laughably premature, imo. He's a very good manager, and could become a great one -but he has limitations, next to no experience at the top level, has won absolutely nothing whatsoever and often looks utterly lost when Plan A (which is usually quite good) is countered by a tactical switch or a better opponent.

Roger Schmidt beat him, and beat him well.

As I said in reply to the other post, we've been brick in the league this season. So on that basis, all other managers we've come up against this season (apart from Pep!) are better than Poch
 
Its not Europe - we've been bricke in the league this season as well

In the EPL, Spurs are often unlucky to score. In Europe, we look like a Championship team whose players have poor technique and lack enough guile / creativity to create chances in open play.
 
In the EPL, Spurs are often unlucky to score. In Europe, we look like a Championship team whose players have poor technique and lack enough guile / creativity to create chances in open play.

That's just better opposition. We've been crap in the league (mainly) and crap in Europe, however in Europe our crap-ness is more evident
 
In the EPL, Spurs are often unlucky to score. In Europe, we look like a Championship team whose players have poor technique and lack enough guile / creativity to create chances in open play.

I agree with that 100%

What bothers me is I'm not surprised in the slightest.

When the players start thinking the have played well in games like tonight I start looking at the manager. Pochettino is turning into our very own Roberto Martínez of last season
 
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The part in bold I strongly agree with. The Arsenal match will show if indeed his tactic has been decoded by opponents.

It's what I've been silently fearing for a while now, tbh. A high press is difficult to counter, but if you can do it, there's usually no energy or will left in the opposition team's tank for them to radically switch around and try a new style of playing. Bielsa's teams were notorious for a) burning out towards the end of seasons, and b) fading away once teams figured out ways of evading the press. You can rectify that by making small in-game tactical changes to keep the opposition off-balance while preserving your style, but that really doesn't seem to be Poch's strong suit. So, for our sake, let's hope it isn't as easy to counter our style as it currently seems to be.

That's just better opposition. We've been crap in the league (mainly) and crap in Europe, however in Europe our crap-ness is more evident

True. I was looking forward to this group because it pitted us against what I imagined were teams on the same level as us, down to a man - but, to be honest, both Monaco and Leverkusen have looked much better than us, in different ways (Leverkusen were simply better in all aspects, while Monaco showed defensive grit and nous that we still lack). Shows the difference between the CL and the PL.
 
We need a volunteer from the forum to watch the NLD for the group and just keep us up to date on here.
Not sure any Spurs fan deserves to sit through that rubbish twice in one week?
 
I now am convinced that our slump is due to an overemphasis on 'krypton factor' training over real football.
Sadly it feels like it's all downhill from here; to have ALL of our creative barely trap a ball or pass to a teammate all at once says "Bielsa downturn"

Sunday will be messy.
 
Will say it once more. Poch is not a good enough coach for Europe. For EPL to finish in the CL places, yes. He needs to get a plan B.

If any manager will learn from it...he will. It's not Europe, its confidence, and imposing our game in high stakes games. We weren't able to impose tonight like we can when on form. Missing Lamela (hardly anyone mentioned him, when is he back?), Dembele and Toby it is no surprise we lacked something tonight.
 
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