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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
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Okay, okay, you're not a comedy character. Did you have a helping teacher at school?
JellySpur
Espen Baardsen
It boggles the mind how you can think its okay to say something like that to someone. If you're an adult, you should be ashamed of yourself mate. I appreciate that you probably didn't mean to cause offence (to anyone but Grimsby at least) but, really that doesn't matter, just because someone doesn't agree with you or may appear to not argue based on the same set of rules you do, it doesn't mean that you can imply that, that person has a learning disability. Its offensive to people with those disabilities and its just plain offensive in general. I don't want to derail the thread too much but, if you want, if you think I'm being unfair or whatever we can talk about it via PM. (Sorry if this has not broken any rules, I don't think I've used any abusive language but, can understand why this wouldn't be okay to say)
To Grimsby,
I think Mason's a good player and I like to watch him play. I don't think that anyone is saying that he is the be all and end all of midfield talent or think that he is the only potential long term solution to our midfield problems, I think they are just praising the positive impact he's had on certain areas of our play, which many consider to be more than that of paulinho (who admittedly played well against Saudi Sportswashing Machine).
Mauricio Pochettino spends most afternoons camped in his office at Tottenham’s plush north London training centre with his trusted inner circle.
He shuts the door and talks with his assistants Jesus Perez, Miguel D’Agostino and Tony Jiminez. Discussions revolve around various subjects; analysing individual performances, thoughts on tactics or planning of training sessions.
While players and staff are encouraged to knock on the door if there is anything they want to discuss, it is a very different approach to his predecessor Tim Sherwood, who barely set foot in the office and would spend his days based in the canteen, nicknamed ‘the pub’.
A slight sense of detachment has been felt by a significant number of Spurs players this season, with Pochettino facing complaints from fringe players about his lack of communication and feedback.
The dividing lines have long been established by Pochettino. The Argentine knows which players he wants to keep next season and those that will be moved on. That will be reflected in some ruthless decisions in the summer, with up to 10 players available for transfer as Spurs plan an extensive overhaul of their squad.
Pochettino has boxed carefully and cleverly during the first campaign of his five-year contract. He has lifted the spirit of both the players and the supporters, and has built around a core of academy graduates led by 30-goal Harry Kane.
He has also spoken optimistically in public and refused to criticise the players in the same manner as Sherwood, whose media proclamations angered the board.
Behind the scenes, though, Pochettino has identified almost exactly the same problems in the squad as the now Aston Villa boss - most notably the weak mentality of the group and the need for more leaders.
It was hoped Pochettino’s appointment would help bring the best out of the club’s expensive signings, but there is now a grim realisation that the ‘abundance of top-class talent’ in the squad he cited last May simply does not exist.
There was always an acceptance that Pochettino’s first year would be a transitional season and that has been borne out.
On Saturday, Pochettino prepares to return to former side Southampton for the first time with the Londoners just one point ahead of the south coast club. After 33 games last season, Tottenham sat sixth with 59 points; this year they have 57 points and lie seventh in the table.
Spurs hope that next season they will start to see a return on the foundations built over the last year, not just on the pitch as Pochettino has implemented his philosophy, but in the transfer market with a more structured approach to signings.
Paul Mitchell, the head of recruitment also brought in from Southampton, is leading the search for players that will immediately improve Tottenham’s squad and get them punching above their weight. They are mainly targeting a centre-back, central midfielder and a fast winger.
The club have to be astute in the transfer market if they are to compete for a Champions League spot, particularly as they have only the sixth highest wage bill in the Premier League and a £400m stadium project to finance.
Pochettino used pre-season and the early part of the campaign to assess the squad, but he has long drawn his conclusions on many of the players. The 43-year-old will encourage Levy to clear out a number of unwanted players in the summer, including Emmanuel Adebayor, Roberto Soldado, Paulinho, Vlad Chiriches, Younes Kaboul, Etienne Capoue and Aaron Lennon.
Spurs may have to take a financial hit on some players and there are some that will refuse to take a pay cut to leave north London. But according to sources, Pochettino has barely hidden his disinterest in players that do not feature in his long-term plans.
Goal has spoken to more than one first-team member who has complained about Pochettino’s ‘cold’ approach to man-management.
There is a frustration among some fringe members of the squad about a lack of feedback and a sense that Pochettino only has time for players that are part of his long-term plans.
Even compatriots Erik Lamela and Federico Fazio are said to have little more than a cordial relationship with Pochettino, while he doesn’t talk at all to players he has exiled from his matchday squad including Adebayor, Kaboul and Capoue.
“The only players he really talks to and shows interest in are Hugo [Lloris], Danny Rose and Harry Kane,” one player, who is a regular in the matchday squad, told Goal.
“The lack of personal feedback is frustrating. As a player you want to be told where to improve. Do I need to work on my weaker foot? Is it my tactical positioning? Do I need to get fitter?
“You don’t want to be told that everything is fine when you’re not getting the playing time you want.”
Pochettino, both privately and in public, insists there is ‘no problem’ with Adebayor and the other outcasts, who contrary to perception have generally behaved professionally, although there have been a few issues. Capoue, for example, has been described as "immature".
Rumours of a bust-up between the squad following a defeat earlier in the season have been vehemently denied by all parties, but Pochettino needs to cut the weeds and build a squad next season with complete buy-in of all of his players.
If he gets the changes he wants, Pochettino will have much more to chew over when he holds his meetings at Tottenham’s state-of-the-art training ground next season.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...-five-year-plan-is-hitting-its-critical-phase
Oh look, Stobart with another negatively spun piece.
He shuts the door and talks with his assistants Jesus Perez, Miguel D’Agostino and Tony Jiminez. Discussions revolve around various subjects; analysing individual performances, thoughts on tactics or planning of training sessions.
While players and staff are encouraged to knock on the door if there is anything they want to discuss, it is a very different approach to his predecessor Tim Sherwood, who barely set foot in the office and would spend his days based in the canteen, nicknamed ‘the pub’.
A slight sense of detachment has been felt by a significant number of Spurs players this season, with Pochettino facing complaints from fringe players about his lack of communication and feedback.
The dividing lines have long been established by Pochettino. The Argentine knows which players he wants to keep next season and those that will be moved on. That will be reflected in some ruthless decisions in the summer, with up to 10 players available for transfer as Spurs plan an extensive overhaul of their squad.
Pochettino has boxed carefully and cleverly during the first campaign of his five-year contract. He has lifted the spirit of both the players and the supporters, and has built around a core of academy graduates led by 30-goal Harry Kane.
He has also spoken optimistically in public and refused to criticise the players in the same manner as Sherwood, whose media proclamations angered the board.
Behind the scenes, though, Pochettino has identified almost exactly the same problems in the squad as the now Aston Villa boss - most notably the weak mentality of the group and the need for more leaders.
It was hoped Pochettino’s appointment would help bring the best out of the club’s expensive signings, but there is now a grim realisation that the ‘abundance of top-class talent’ in the squad he cited last May simply does not exist.
There was always an acceptance that Pochettino’s first year would be a transitional season and that has been borne out.
On Saturday, Pochettino prepares to return to former side Southampton for the first time with the Londoners just one point ahead of the south coast club. After 33 games last season, Tottenham sat sixth with 59 points; this year they have 57 points and lie seventh in the table.
Spurs hope that next season they will start to see a return on the foundations built over the last year, not just on the pitch as Pochettino has implemented his philosophy, but in the transfer market with a more structured approach to signings.
Paul Mitchell, the head of recruitment also brought in from Southampton, is leading the search for players that will immediately improve Tottenham’s squad and get them punching above their weight. They are mainly targeting a centre-back, central midfielder and a fast winger.
The club have to be astute in the transfer market if they are to compete for a Champions League spot, particularly as they have only the sixth highest wage bill in the Premier League and a £400m stadium project to finance.
Pochettino used pre-season and the early part of the campaign to assess the squad, but he has long drawn his conclusions on many of the players. The 43-year-old will encourage Levy to clear out a number of unwanted players in the summer, including Emmanuel Adebayor, Roberto Soldado, Paulinho, Vlad Chiriches, Younes Kaboul, Etienne Capoue and Aaron Lennon.
Spurs may have to take a financial hit on some players and there are some that will refuse to take a pay cut to leave north London. But according to sources, Pochettino has barely hidden his disinterest in players that do not feature in his long-term plans.
Goal has spoken to more than one first-team member who has complained about Pochettino’s ‘cold’ approach to man-management.
There is a frustration among some fringe members of the squad about a lack of feedback and a sense that Pochettino only has time for players that are part of his long-term plans.
Even compatriots Erik Lamela and Federico Fazio are said to have little more than a cordial relationship with Pochettino, while he doesn’t talk at all to players he has exiled from his matchday squad including Adebayor, Kaboul and Capoue.
“The only players he really talks to and shows interest in are Hugo [Lloris], Danny Rose and Harry Kane,” one player, who is a regular in the matchday squad, told Goal.
“The lack of personal feedback is frustrating. As a player you want to be told where to improve. Do I need to work on my weaker foot? Is it my tactical positioning? Do I need to get fitter?
“You don’t want to be told that everything is fine when you’re not getting the playing time you want.”
Pochettino, both privately and in public, insists there is ‘no problem’ with Adebayor and the other outcasts, who contrary to perception have generally behaved professionally, although there have been a few issues. Capoue, for example, has been described as "immature".
Rumours of a bust-up between the squad following a defeat earlier in the season have been vehemently denied by all parties, but Pochettino needs to cut the weeds and build a squad next season with complete buy-in of all of his players.
If he gets the changes he wants, Pochettino will have much more to chew over when he holds his meetings at Tottenham’s state-of-the-art training ground next season.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...-five-year-plan-is-hitting-its-critical-phase
Oh look, Stobart with another negatively spun piece.
Mauricio Pochettino spends most afternoons camped in his office at Tottenham’s plush north London training centre with his trusted inner circle.
He shuts the door and talks with his assistants Jesus Perez, Miguel D’Agostino and Tony Jiminez. Discussions revolve around various subjects; analysing individual performances, thoughts on tactics or planning of training sessions.
While players and staff are encouraged to knock on the door if there is anything they want to discuss, it is a very different approach to his predecessor Tim Sherwood, who barely set foot in the office and would spend his days based in the canteen, nicknamed ‘the pub’.
A slight sense of detachment has been felt by a significant number of Spurs players this season, with Pochettino facing complaints from fringe players about his lack of communication and feedback.
The dividing lines have long been established by Pochettino. The Argentine knows which players he wants to keep next season and those that will be moved on. That will be reflected in some ruthless decisions in the summer, with up to 10 players available for transfer as Spurs plan an extensive overhaul of their squad.
Pochettino has boxed carefully and cleverly during the first campaign of his five-year contract. He has lifted the spirit of both the players and the supporters, and has built around a core of academy graduates led by 30-goal Harry Kane.
He has also spoken optimistically in public and refused to criticise the players in the same manner as Sherwood, whose media proclamations angered the board.
Behind the scenes, though, Pochettino has identified almost exactly the same problems in the squad as the now Aston Villa boss - most notably the weak mentality of the group and the need for more leaders.
It was hoped Pochettino’s appointment would help bring the best out of the club’s expensive signings, but there is now a grim realisation that the ‘abundance of top-class talent’ in the squad he cited last May simply does not exist.
There was always an acceptance that Pochettino’s first year would be a transitional season and that has been borne out.
On Saturday, Pochettino prepares to return to former side Southampton for the first time with the Londoners just one point ahead of the south coast club. After 33 games last season, Tottenham sat sixth with 59 points; this year they have 57 points and lie seventh in the table.
Spurs hope that next season they will start to see a return on the foundations built over the last year, not just on the pitch as Pochettino has implemented his philosophy, but in the transfer market with a more structured approach to signings.
Paul Mitchell, the head of recruitment also brought in from Southampton, is leading the search for players that will immediately improve Tottenham’s squad and get them punching above their weight. They are mainly targeting a centre-back, central midfielder and a fast winger.
The club have to be astute in the transfer market if they are to compete for a Champions League spot, particularly as they have only the sixth highest wage bill in the Premier League and a £400m stadium project to finance.
Pochettino used pre-season and the early part of the campaign to assess the squad, but he has long drawn his conclusions on many of the players. The 43-year-old will encourage Levy to clear out a number of unwanted players in the summer, including Emmanuel Adebayor, Roberto Soldado, Paulinho, Vlad Chiriches, Younes Kaboul, Etienne Capoue and Aaron Lennon.
Spurs may have to take a financial hit on some players and there are some that will refuse to take a pay cut to leave north London. But according to sources, Pochettino has barely hidden his disinterest in players that do not feature in his long-term plans.
Goal has spoken to more than one first-team member who has complained about Pochettino’s ‘cold’ approach to man-management.
There is a frustration among some fringe members of the squad about a lack of feedback and a sense that Pochettino only has time for players that are part of his long-term plans.
Even compatriots Erik Lamela and Federico Fazio are said to have little more than a cordial relationship with Pochettino, while he doesn’t talk at all to players he has exiled from his matchday squad including Adebayor, Kaboul and Capoue.
“The only players he really talks to and shows interest in are Hugo [Lloris], Danny Rose and Harry Kane,” one player, who is a regular in the matchday squad, told Goal.
“The lack of personal feedback is frustrating. As a player you want to be told where to improve. Do I need to work on my weaker foot? Is it my tactical positioning? Do I need to get fitter?
“You don’t want to be told that everything is fine when you’re not getting the playing time you want.”
Pochettino, both privately and in public, insists there is ‘no problem’ with Adebayor and the other outcasts, who contrary to perception have generally behaved professionally, although there have been a few issues. Capoue, for example, has been described as "immature".
Rumours of a bust-up between the squad following a defeat earlier in the season have been vehemently denied by all parties, but Pochettino needs to cut the weeds and build a squad next season with complete buy-in of all of his players.
If he gets the changes he wants, Pochettino will have much more to chew over when he holds his meetings at Tottenham’s state-of-the-art training ground next season.
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...-five-year-plan-is-hitting-its-critical-phase
Oh look, Stobart with another negatively spun piece.
Don't think it's negatively spun, just says what we already know, that the squad is full of players unsuitable for his style and philosophy and who aren't able or willing to adapt. Also it's full of players with a weak mentality.
It's just saying that these players need to be shifted before they become a disruptive influence.
At the moment Poch might have to "box cleverly" to stop the situation blowing up, telling under performers everything's fine to keep them sweet on the training ground, but that won't necessarily be sustainable.
He's presenting it as if Capoue and Kaboul's unhappiness actually matters.
GrimsbyYid
Gus Poyet
You really are the biggest clam on these forums. Why did you join? I'm sure one point you promised to leave and never did. Little cancer you are.
But shock horror. I'm right yet again. Mason forcing us to lose. I hate being right all the time. I said our inept manager would let him walk straight in the team and its cost us.
I want to give him time. I'm desperate for it to work. But more years of such ineptitude, such shocking decisions and team selections. Could be a torturous time.
Millsy_Yiddo
Naybet
Grimsby, you never answered my question of what it actually is about Masons play you don't like? (And yes I know he fell on his arse about 20minutes ago for the Southampton goal)
GrimsbyYid
Gus Poyet
Sorry mate, I've explained it so many times so I thought you were just winding me up. And I will say, although I'm not surprised he fudged up for the goal, he hasn't been bad today.
But what i don't like about him is that he simply isn't good enough, he's so average. For the system he's too similar to bentaleb who is light years ahead of him and I don't think the two are a good partnership at all, neither protect the defence, neither offer assist, goals, creativity in to link the front 4. I blame this for us letting in so many goals, and barely creating anything all season (relying on Eriksen and Kane to score wonder goal after wonder goal).
Ultimately he doesn't have any strong attributes bar work ethic and battle, which is good, but not good enough at all. His shot is appalling, he gives th ball away way way too much and ultimately does;t offer anything to the team. I don't blame him too much, I just don't think he as the ability, not even close. And this is the weakest area of our team by some stretch so I guess he frustrates me even more that Poch keeps playing him when, in my opinion, Stambouli would free up bentaleb more to be a more effective box to box, or Dembele who, although inconsistent, can be incredibly effective and link to those front 4.
Personally, I'd be tempted to play Eriksen in the middle as I think he needs as much of the ball as possible, but that's another issue
If Mason was a squad player to back up Bentlet I'd probably be okay, though still feel, even as a back up it's easy and cheap to upgrade on him
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
Now that was excellent by Mason
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
Wow big chance for Soton there. That gap was like the Red Sea in our defence
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
ffs how are we not behind that should be 2-1. Come on defence get a grip
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
have we got the wrong boots on. As Ray Wilkins used to say...stay on your feet!
Millsy_Yiddo
Naybet
Fair enough response, opinions are opinions.
Personally I don't think he's anything special either, but the fact he moves the ball more quickly and looks forward more often means he fits the system better than anyone else we have currently. Dembele and from what I've seen of stambouli don't.
I wouldn't mind seeing Eriksen in there either though at least as a trail at the end of the season if there's nothing to play for.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Mason owned Schneiderlin again today - for the second time this season.
His one error was slipping on a pitch that was an ice rink - Bentaleb, Davies (twice) and Schneiderlin all had the same thing happen to them - two of them picking up serious injuries because of the pitch
Cochise
Steve Carr
That piece echos a lot of what we heard early on, that Poch has his favourites and if he doesn't rate a player they are left frozen out. I'm not sure I believe that the "first team" player he quotes is one of the regular starting XI, because I just can't believe that he would only coach three players. I'm happy with Poch, but it isn't the first time we have heard such things. Hopefully we will hear less about it when he has a team of players he wants.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
That's every manager ever.
See Redknapp with Dos Santos, Hutton, Keane etc; Sherwood with Sandro, Capoue, Verts, Lloris etc; AVB with BAE and Ade etc.
Cochise
Steve Carr
I get that and I also believe that Poch has likely come to his conculsions about the squad earlier this season, which is why there are still some players that are getting games who he doesn't talk to. I do doubt that he only talks to the three players mentionned, but if it is true then we should expect to see problems during his tenure in charge. Hopefully he will get in some players that he wants and that circle will expand.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
The player scorned is always going to exaggerate things. I remember Danny Murphy even taking a parting swipe at Martin Jol once, who we all know was a big cuddly bear