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jimmyb said:
Load of gonads.

What Sheringham did was nothing like what Campbell did.

- Sheringham didn't spend two years lying about signing a new contract that he never had any intention of signing.
- Sheringham didn't promise that his "bond with Spurs fans will never be broken" while holding secret talks with Arsenal.
- Sheringham didn't leave on a free, thereby denying Spurs a potential ?ú20 million transfer fee while lining his own pockets instead.
- Sheringham didn't walk around the pitch at WHL after the last game of the season, soaking up the crowd's adoration, fully in the knowledge that he was about to stick the knife in our backs.
- Sheringham didn't join Spurs' bitter local rivals.

And guess what................Campbell did do all those things.

What Teddy did was have a row with Alan Sugar. After the brief period of progress during the Klinsmann season, Spurs had gone backwards. Teddy knew it. We all knew it. Teddy wanted what we all wanted - for the club to show some ambition and to start competing properly again. And he said as much to Sugar. Sugar's response, as per usual, was to throw his toys out of the pram. As a consequence of Teddy's show of dissent, Sugar told Teddy that he could leave and immediately accepted the offer from Man Utd. Sheringham hadn't demanded a move but it was hardly surprising, in the circumstances, that he readily accepted.

If we had had a proper chairman at the time, there is no way that Teddy would have left. There is no way that he would have wanted to.

If Teddy was guilty of anything, it was only that he said a few harsh words about Spurs' lack of ambition soon after he joined Utd. That's why he was booed on his return. But, in fact, he was only articulating what every other Spurs fan thought at the time. That's why the majority of Spurs fans never blamed him for joining Man Utd and why even those that did soon tired of booing him and soon forgave him - other than you, obviously.

Oh, and by the way, we most certainly didn't pluck Teddy from obscurity and save his career. He was playing for Nottingham Forest, who were still managed by Brian Clough and still a force to be reckoned with. If Spurs hadn't signed him, another top club definitely would have.

In short, you don't half talk a load of brick at times, fella.

P.S. One other thing - I don't know of a single Spurs fan who, at the time, would have blamed Campbell for leaving. He was too good for us and he deserved to be playing for a team that stood a chance of winning silverware. If he had left in the right manner and gone to any team other than Arsenal (or Chelsea, I suppose), we would have been very sad but we would have understood and he would have gone with our blessing. Who knows, he might well have returned, welcomed like a hero, to play for Spurs again later in his career - just as Teddy did.

But he left on a free. To Arsenal. Having lied to the fans for two years. And he never once conceded that he might have brought the hate upon himself. Nor has he ever hinted at offering an apology for what he did.
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jimmyb said:
Load of gonads.

What Sheringham did was nothing like what Campbell did.

- Sheringham didn't spend two years lying about signing a new contract that he never had any intention of signing.
- Sheringham didn't promise that his "bond with Spurs fans will never be broken" while holding secret talks with Arsenal.
- Sheringham didn't leave on a free, thereby denying Spurs a potential ?ú20 million transfer fee while lining his own pockets instead.
- Sheringham didn't walk around the pitch at WHL after the last game of the season, soaking up the crowd's adoration, fully in the knowledge that he was about to stick the knife in our backs.
- Sheringham didn't join Spurs' bitter local rivals.

And guess what................Campbell did do all those things.

What Teddy did was have a row with Alan Sugar. After the brief period of progress during the Klinsmann season, Spurs had gone backwards. Teddy knew it. We all knew it. Teddy wanted what we all wanted - for the club to show some ambition and to start competing properly again. And he said as much to Sugar. Sugar's response, as per usual, was to throw his toys out of the pram. As a consequence of Teddy's show of dissent, Sugar told Teddy that he could leave and immediately accepted the offer from Man Utd. Sheringham hadn't demanded a move but it was hardly surprising, in the circumstances, that he readily accepted.

If we had had a proper chairman at the time, there is no way that Teddy would have left. There is no way that he would have wanted to.

If Teddy was guilty of anything, it was only that he said a few harsh words about Spurs' lack of ambition soon after he joined Utd. That's why he was booed on his return. But, in fact, he was only articulating what every other Spurs fan thought at the time. That's why the majority of Spurs fans never blamed him for joining Man Utd and why even those that did soon tired of booing him and soon forgave him - other than you, obviously.

Oh, and by the way, we most certainly didn't pluck Teddy from obscurity and save his career. He was playing for Nottingham Forest, who were still managed by Brian Clough and still a force to be reckoned with. If Spurs hadn't signed him, another top club definitely would have.

In short, you don't half talk a load of brick at times, fella.

P.S. One other thing - I don't know of a single Spurs fan who, at the time, would have blamed Campbell for leaving. He was too good for us and he deserved to be playing for a team that stood a chance of winning silverware. If he had left in the right manner and gone to any team other than Arsenal (or Chelsea, I suppose), we would have been very sad but we would have understood and he would have gone with our blessing. Who knows, he might well have returned, welcomed like a hero, to play for Spurs again later in his career - just as Teddy did.

But he left on a free. To Arsenal. Having lied to the fans for two years. And he never once conceded that he might have brought the hate upon himself. Nor has he ever hinted at offering an apology for what he did.
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Yeah!

Sky Andrew is a clam too.
 
jimmyb said:
Load of gonads.

What Sheringham did was nothing like what Campbell did.

- Sheringham didn't spend two years lying about signing a new contract that he never had any intention of signing.
- Sheringham didn't promise that his "bond with Spurs fans will never be broken" while holding secret talks with Arsenal.
- Sheringham didn't leave on a free, thereby denying Spurs a potential ?ú20 million transfer fee while lining his own pockets instead.
- Sheringham didn't walk around the pitch at WHL after the last game of the season, soaking up the crowd's adoration, fully in the knowledge that he was about to stick the knife in our backs.
- Sheringham didn't join Spurs' bitter local rivals.

And guess what................Campbell did do all those things.

What Teddy did was have a row with Alan Sugar. After the brief period of progress during the Klinsmann season, Spurs had gone backwards. Teddy knew it. We all knew it. Teddy wanted what we all wanted - for the club to show some ambition and to start competing properly again. And he said as much to Sugar. Sugar's response, as per usual, was to throw his toys out of the pram. As a consequence of Teddy's show of dissent, Sugar told Teddy that he could leave and immediately accepted the offer from Man Utd. Sheringham hadn't demanded a move but it was hardly surprising, in the circumstances, that he readily accepted.

If we had had a proper chairman at the time, there is no way that Teddy would have left. There is no way that he would have wanted to.

If Teddy was guilty of anything, it was only that he said a few harsh words about Spurs' lack of ambition soon after he joined Utd. That's why he was booed on his return. But, in fact, he was only articulating what every other Spurs fan thought at the time. That's why the majority of Spurs fans never blamed him for joining Man Utd and why even those that did soon tired of booing him and soon forgave him - other than you, obviously.

Oh, and by the way, we most certainly didn't pluck Teddy from obscurity and save his career. He was playing for Nottingham Forest, who were still managed by Brian Clough and still a force to be reckoned with. If Spurs hadn't signed him, another top club definitely would have.

In short, you don't half talk a load of brick at times, fella.

P.S. One other thing - I don't know of a single Spurs fan who, at the time, would have blamed Campbell for leaving. He was too good for us and he deserved to be playing for a team that stood a chance of winning silverware. If he had left in the right manner and gone to any team other than Arsenal (or Chelsea, I suppose), we would have been very sad but we would have understood and he would have gone with our blessing. Who knows, he might well have returned, welcomed like a hero, to play for Spurs again later in his career - just as Teddy did.

But he left on a free. To Arsenal. Having lied to the fans for two years. And he never once conceded that he might have brought the hate upon himself. Nor has he ever hinted at offering an apology for what he did.
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One of your finest posts, sir. Unfortunate that it is on the subject of someone completely unworthy of it, but that, as they say, is life.

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Pluck Teddy from obscurity? fudge me, that's rich. Teddy was as Super as my name suggests, and we were very fortunate that he chose to sign for us at the time. He deserved more out of his career than we as a club could provide (or Sugar was willing to provide) at the time, so I've never begrudged that he moved to Man U and am happy for the fact that he played a vital part in Man U's famous treble. My Man U supporting mates all have a soft spot for Spurs because of what Teddy achieved with and for Man U.
 
Spurs7891 said:
Sheringham was the last 20-league-goals-a-season striker we have had. We are still searching for another striker who can score 20 league goals since then. We saved him from oscurity at Nottingham Forest, nurtured him into a top goal scorer and stood by him when he got many long term injuries. But as soon as he got over his injury problems, he fecked us off by joining ManU. That for me is a bigger betrayal than what Campbell did. In fact, I am convinced Campbell got influenced by Sheringham to move to a trophy-winning team. We shouldn't have bought Sheringham back. When you are ready to forgive and buy back players who have betrayed you, that will only encourage the other players to do the same. That's exactly what Campbell did.
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Sheringham was saved from obscurity, what from Clough's Forest where he was scoring for fun, after they paid HUGE money for him from Milwall where he was scoring for fun and got 30-odd in a season? Whatever trevor!

many long term injuries?? what is this garbage?

'when you are ready to buy back players'? are you the Dalai Lama?

are you even a Spurs fan? This club has had some bad times, but they are all well documented. Go and read the excellent Tottenham Hotspur 1882-1996 by Phil Soar, it has many details and pictures.

Sheringham was a horrible loss, I remember queuing for Man Utd tickets at the Lane from 6am the day he moved and read about it in the queue, his first game back he missed a penalty for Utd while the Paxton was being rebuilt. But it was a fair cop - he wasnt winning, had a massive falling out with Sugar and moved to Utd and eventually was proved right by scoring in the Treble clinching game. But NOBODY was upset he went to Utd, just that he had left us! Campbell moved to ARSENAL after we made him club captain, after we made him the player he was, after he lifted a trophy for us at Wembley, after he had promised his fans he would sign a new contract. Whatever happened there, whos mistake it was ( probably Dan Levy ), it still dosnt justify what he did and STILL dosnt understand. This is at a time when the club was at least at parity with Arsenal, but it was slipping away fast with the arrival and continued success of Wenger, who we just happily supplied with the best centre half of his generation to replace Adams!

To compare this transfer with Sheringham's is so superficial.
 
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Campbell is the most despicable liar and fraud to ever play for the club, how he can be compared to Sheringham who still comes to our games even now is quite frankly laughable.

Even now seeing Campbell's name being afforded column inches makes me wanna puke. His treachery really marks the darkest period in our history, but happily things are better now.
 
Howard Webb said:
Sheringham was saved from obscurity, what from Clough's Forest where he was scoring for fun, after they paid HUGE money for him from Milwall where he was scoring for fun and got 30-odd in a season? Whatever trevor!

many long term injuries?? what is this garbage?

'when you are ready to buy back players'? are you the Dalai Lama?

are you even a Spurs fan? This club has had some bad times, but they are all well documented. Go and read the excellent Tottenham Hotspur 1882-1996 by Phil Soar, it has many details and pictures.

Sheringham was a horrible loss, I remember queuing for Man Utd tickets at the Lane from 6am the day he moved and read about it in the queue, his first game back he missed a penalty for Utd while the Paxton was being rebuilt. But it was a fair cop - he wasnt winning, had a massive falling out with Sugar and moved to Utd and eventually was proved right by scoring in the Treble clinching game. But NOBODY was upset he went to Utd, just that he had left us! Campbell moved to ARSENAL after we made him club captain, after we made him the player he was, after he lifted a trophy for us at Wembley, after he had promised his fans he would sign a new contract. Whatever happened there, whos mistake it was ( probably Dan Levy ), it still dosnt justify what he did and STILL dosnt understand. This is at a time when the club was at least at parity with Arsenal, but it was slipping away fast with the arrival and continued success of Wenger, who we just happily supplied with the best centre half of his generation to replace Adams!

To compare this transfer with Sheringham's is so superficial.
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Good post, but you forgot to issue a Red Card to Spurs7891! I'm up from the bench waving an imaginary one right now.
 
nelto said:
Good post, but you forgot to issue a Red Card to Spurs7891! I'm up from the bench waving an imaginary one right now.
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definately a red, but I think a FA Panel would extend the ban to 5 matches. absolute shocking foul Manish!
 
Howard Webb said:
Sheringham was saved from obscurity, what from Clough's Forest where he was scoring for fun, after they paid HUGE money for him from Milwall where he was scoring for fun and got 30-odd in a season? Whatever trevor!

many long term injuries?? what is this garbage?

'when you are ready to buy back players'? are you the Dalai Lama?

are you even a Spurs fan? This club has had some bad times, but they are all well documented. Go and read the excellent Tottenham Hotspur 1882-1996 by Phil Soar, it has many details and pictures.

Sheringham was a horrible loss, I remember queuing for Man Utd tickets at the Lane from 6am the day he moved and read about it in the queue, his first game back he missed a penalty for Utd while the Paxton was being rebuilt. But it was a fair cop - he wasnt winning, had a massive falling out with Sugar and moved to Utd and eventually was proved right by scoring in the Treble clinching game. But NOBODY was upset he went to Utd, just that he had left us! Campbell moved to ARSENAL after we made him club captain, after we made him the player he was, after he lifted a trophy for us at Wembley, after he had promised his fans he would sign a new contract. Whatever happened there, whos mistake it was ( probably Dan Levy ), it still dosnt justify what he did and STILL dosnt understand. This is at a time when the club was at least at parity with Arsenal, but it was slipping away fast with the arrival and continued success of Wenger, who we just happily supplied with the best centre half of his generation to replace Adams!

To compare this transfer with Sheringham's is so superficial.
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Agreed with everything you said except that. I don't think you could really say parity was "slipping fast", it was long gone by the time Campbell left us for them, they'd won the double and their worst league finish for the previous four or five seasons had been 2nd, whereas we were tinkling around either in mid-table or having a bit of a flirt with relegation.

Which made what he did all the worse, with him lying his head off to us and the waltzing across the road to make the gap even bigger.
 
Personally don't see why people still waste their energy getting worked up over him.

Move on, Spurs have....
 
EJG said:
Agreed with everything you said except that. I don't think you could really say parity was "slipping fast", it was long gone by the time Campbell left us for them, they'd won the double and their worst league finish for the previous four or five seasons had been 2nd, whereas we were tinkling around either in mid-table or having a bit of a flirt with relegation.

Which made what he did all the worse, with him lying his head off to us and the waltzing across the road to make the gap even bigger.
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should clarify, the time between sheringham and campbell moving was the time when the sides moved apart - sheringham won the treble in 99 after leaving in 96, while we won the other remaining trophy that season with Campbell. like you say, it just made the situation worse! and look what came after that, invincibles and the rest. But to say one led to the other just dosnt fit. Campbell would more likely have picked up the mercenary habit from someone like Klinsmann, who was winding it up by the time he joined us anyway. But Klinsmann also knew the club instantly, he understood the values and the history. This is all being a bit unfair to Wenger as well, he had reinvented Arsenal into a modern club who nearly all others followed, changing diet and training habits into a professional mentality ( no more Merson vomit on the pitch and Venables/George Graham bungs! ) and making players into atheletes. Campbell decided to join that revolution and will forever be remembered for betraying the old for the new ( ie understandable ) as much as integrity and loyalty going down the toilet - he IS that conflict and hes a total mug for thinking the old rules vanished overnight simply because he says they did.
 
He fudged over both Arsenal and Pompey too, he is a despicable liar and a first class clam..

I will hate him to my dying day
 
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