• Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled at times due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Adult content is allowed in the glory hole - you will have to request permission to access it. Thanks, scara

Jose Mourinho - SACKED

Yeah, I mean, it's hard to criticise him being the way he is now, long may it last! But you get a feel it's a bit over the top, almost over compensating for what's inevitably to come. :p

Having said that, I much prefer the current Mourinho, long may he reign!

There's a balance to be struck. I liked him when he was at Chelsea first. He was a proper wind up merchant but funny. The time he had a go at Fergies United when they did a lap of honour after Chelsea beat them 3-1 in their last game of the season at Old Trafford was comical ("if you do a lap of honour after being beat 3-1 at home in Portugal, they throw bottles at you").

Or when he took a pop at us and Arsenal after the 5-4 game ("if my team defended like that in training, I'd send them back in.")

I want a bit of the nasty fudger because we've had nice guys for 15 years pretty much (Jol, Poch and I'd argue Harry) and we've always been soft and got fudged in the big games by ourselves and officials.

This version of Jose is too nice. It won't last.
 
That is no way to proceed. Subs are a vital part of refreshing the team, without them we will wilt. We need to make the right subs.
There is also a learning curve right now to see who can do what and how they react to things.
Those players should be smart enough and fit enough to see out the game. But they are not right now.
The end of yesterday will have shown Mourinho alot and where work is needed.
 
Really interested to see Jose's Spurs with a month or two of work and a January window.

Same here, he knows ( can see) that there is a lot of work to do yet but to start with three wins and ten goals is a bonus. There is work to do in midfield for sure but once he has the players fit and tuned in to his wishes then i look forward to happy days again.
 
The ball boy for lunch was a nice touch yesterday too

He has decided that before every home game now one of the boy balls/girls will get to have a pre match meal with all the players

Yes, a nice touch - and fair to extend it to the others as they would probably all have acted just as quickly if they’d been at that position on the sideline.

Which reminds me of yesterday - did anyone else see Gazza raging at the ball boy in front of the Paxton, who, deep into injury time, rushed to get the ball back to him? I felt sorry for the kid - obviously forgot when to be quick and when to linger.
 
I just trust him, I can’t really explain it more than that. I trust his in game management / decisions, I trust him going in to big games (pragmatic), i trust him on identifying our weaknesses and rectifying them.

The only question mark is the falling outs with the squad we’ve seen at Real, Chelsea mk II, Utd (his last 5 years basically, so not a small question mark!) but if we’ve got the Jose of Porto, Chelsea mk I and Inter, with the current base we have (squad, training ground, stadium), then fudge me, the next few years could be special.
 
I just trust him, I can’t really explain it more than that. I trust his in game management / decisions, I trust him going in to big games (pragmatic), i trust him on identifying our weaknesses and rectifying them.

The only question mark is the falling outs with the squad we’ve seen at Real, Chelsea mk II, Utd (his last 5 years basically, so not a small question mark!) but if we’ve got the Jose of Porto, Chelsea mk I and Inter, with the current base we have (squad, training ground, stadium), then fudge me, the next few years could be special.

he managed massive, massive egos in those last 3 appointments
We don’t have any that are obvious
He also inherited clubs that are (IMO) notoriously fickle
 
Does the forum think Mourinho’s personality is the real deal or a character he plays for his players, the media and opponents.

Much like Zlatan Ibrahimvoic I find it really difficult to tell!
 
Does the forum think Mourinho’s personality is the real deal or a character he plays for his players, the media and opponents.

Much like Zlatan Ibrahimvoic I find it really difficult to tell!

It’s their real personality but they are at work. Thus a bit artificial as we all are at work!
 
There is actually an enormous irony about Mou's Spurs personality to me personally...it is close to where I think Pochettino will be in the next decade. I think Mou is a finitely developed winner who has learnt exactly what he needs to succeed wherever he lands. He has learnt (it appears) from every job, and interestingly enough, he has learnt new skills at every job. I would not be surprised to see Poch much closer to Mourinho's ways and behaviors in the next decade. I firmly, firmly believe what happened with us will be the making of a Poch mkII, perhaps a more savvy, less open and "aura-honest" manager who keeps true cards closer to chest and learns to "perform" a bit better in front of media. Mou is a master, and all his recent stuff, including the ball-boy/girl stuff, is exceptionally clever and pure experience talking. They will always be different people at the core (obviously!) but I think Poch will become a bit more ruthless and less "pure" as a result of everything.
I have to say, thus far Mou is playing an absolute blinder, and as has been said, if we can bag a couple of proper pots before he is on his way again, then all well and good...
 
There is actually an enormous irony about Mou's Spurs personality to me personally...it is close to where I think Pochettino will be in the next decade. I think Mou is a finitely developed winner who has learnt exactly what he needs to succeed wherever he lands. He has learnt (it appears) from every job, and interestingly enough, he has learnt new skills at every job. I would not be surprised to see Poch much closer to Mourinho's ways and behaviors in the next decade. I firmly, firmly believe what happened with us will be the making of a Poch mkII, perhaps a more savvy, less open and "aura-honest" manager who keeps true cards closer to chest and learns to "perform" a bit better in front of media. Mou is a master, and all his recent stuff, including the ball-boy/girl stuff, is exceptionally clever and pure experience talking. They will always be different people at the core (obviously!) but I think Poch will become a bit more ruthless and less "pure" as a result of everything.
I have to say, thus far Mou is playing an absolute blinder, and as has been said, if we can bag a couple of proper pots before he is on his way again, then all well and good...

How many tissues have you used up tossing off about Poch the last few weeks. At least you can use your tears as lube.
 
The best thing Mourinho has brought us so far is the excitement and anticipation of watching Tottenham play that we should all feel.

I’m extremely eager and impatient to see where this goes. I want every game of the season to happen right this second!

To be 6 points of 4th and within a real shot of making the CL yet again is fantastic - not only for us as fans but for the mentality of the squad - seeing as a few weeks back I’d already accepted we wouldn’t be in it next season.
 
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/12/02/jose-mourinho-winning-tottenhams-players-fans/

Dele Alli continued his impressive revitalisation under Jose Mourinho as he scored twice in Tottenham's 3-2 win over Bournemouth on Saturday.

Alli, whose poor form and injuries over the last few months had seen him dropped from the England squad, has rediscovered his star quality since Mourinho arrived at the club and bagged a goal in each half.

His brace made it three in three games, as well as two assists, and he has been the figurehead of a Spurs resurgence under Mourinho.

Moussa Sissoko also scored his first goal in over two years as Tottenham won their third successive game under the Portuguese, who has brought the feelgood factor back.

But how has he done it?

The flying start
Sounds obvious but there is nothing better than some early triumphs to damp down the doubters, win over the dressing room and set the stands buzzing. Saturday’s 3-2 defeat of Bournemouth meant Jose Mourinho had overseen three victories within 10 days of taking over. “I think the results changed a lot and also the positive vibe,” said Heung-min Son, provider of two of the goals that sank Bournemouth. “The atmosphere’s changed a lot.”

And with 10 goals to show from three richly entertaining, topsy-turvy matches, this is far from the stereotypical Mourinho grind and more in keeping with Spurs’ entertaining traditions.

Tactical tweaks
It is goodbye to former manager Mauricio Pochettino’s 4-3-3-based high-press possession play, with Mourinho switching things to his more customary 4-2-3-1, though a midfield diamond shone through in the later stages on Saturday.


Spurs sit rather deeper, concentrate on winning the second ball and launch rapid counter-strikes.

Note, too, the occasional deployment of the long-ball, employed to devastating effect by Toby Alderweireld, whose two quarter-back style pinpoint passes led to both Dele Alli’s goals.

Mourinho’s instructions are clear and the players are following them. “The players know when we have to go forwards, when we have to keep the ball,” says Son. “This has changed a little bit, the confidence has changed a lot. This is the main thing. The lads play with the passion and positive energy.”


Getting players onside
No question that Spurs players have quickly bought into the Mourinho gameplan, Dele being the shining example. Now playing just behind Harry Kane, a role to which he is far more suited according to Mourinho, he looks a player reborn. Good news for Spurs, and England.

Kane was not a headline act on Saturday but worked relentlessly for the team and has clearly appreciated several one-to-one chats with Mourinho, who has made it clear he sees the striker as a team leader.

Elsewhere, Eric Dier has found a more natural role in holding midfield and full-back Serge Aurier, who has struggled to make an impact since arriving in 2017, suddenly looks full of confidence and is forming a powerful right-sided partnership with Moussa Sissoko, the acrobatic scorer of Spurs’ third goal on Saturday.


The Mourinho effect is tangible. “Very kind, smiling, he’s making jokes with the players, the players are smiling a lot. The gaffer is doing a great job and we are really happy to have him,” Son says.

Charm offensive
Mourinho said he spent his 11 months out of management reassessing himself and has admitted making mistakes. So no sign of the old grump whose reign ended up curdling so badly at Manchester United.

Aware that many at Tottenham were sore over the departure of Pochettino, Mourinho went to great lengths to speak warmly and appreciatively about his predecessor, the Tottenham club and its fantastic new stadium.

Publicly bigging up the likes of Dele plays well in the dressing room, and hugging 15-year-old ballboy Callum Hynes for quickly returning the ball to play to enable Spurs to level against Olympiakos in midweek was a PR masterstroke.

But there is still work to do
Spurs have seen off West Ham, Olympiakos and Bournemouth in turn but suffered major scares in each game, with the defence looking particularly erratic at times. Bournemouth came desperately close to completing a three-goal comeback during a frantic finish to a match that Spurs should have game-managed to a quiet conclusion.


With due respect to their first three opponents, sterner tests lie in wait for Spurs this month, starting with Wednesday’s trip to Mourinho’s old stamping ground at Manchester United.

Wolves and Chelsea also lie in wait before Christmas, although the Champions League trip to Bayern is less pressing now that qualification for the knock-out stages is already assured.

Mourinho’s main concern will be to drill a defence that is shipping two goals per game under his charge. Not a statistic the Portuguese manager is in the habit of seeing, and certainly one he knows needs changing in the weeks ahead as he shapes a side to contend for a top four Premier League placing, an extended run in the Champions League and a tilt at the FA Cup.
 
Back