Ingerlund

[Finney Is Back]

Why is Rose still on the pitch? We are playing an international friendly a few days after he played the full 90 in a competitive game for England. He was carrying a knock coming into the international break and the club who pay his wages do not currently have another fit left back available. He shouldn't have even started tonight's game and if Southgate was that concerned at playing Cresswell from the start then the very least he could've done was take Rose off at half time. If Pochettino ends up going all Alex Ferguson on England then Southgate will only have himself to blame.

 

[Gutter Boy]

And Lingaard is an awful player

All the players other than the Spurs and Liverpool lot are terrible. It shows just how much they are carried by the technical overseas players at their clubs.

Walcott, Sterling, Lingard, Vardy, Cahill - all mediocre or worse

 

[the dza]

Has Jose broken Rashford?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

All the players other than the Spurs and Liverpool lot are terrible. It shows just how much they are carried by the technical overseas players at their clubs.

Walcott, Sterling, Lingard, Vardy, Cahill - all mediocre or worse

Worryingly I can't argue with that

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Has Jose broken Rashford?

Or was rashford another masheradi or whatever the Italian lad was who played well for a run of games??

 

[the dza]

Or was rashford another masheradi or whatever the Italian lad was who played well for a run of games??

I dunno. He was a fearless young player, now he looks scared of his own shadow.

 

[the dza]

Danny Rose goes off, defence goes to sh1t haha.

 

[Seedy Ron]

Lovely goal.

Cheeky bid?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I dunno. He was a fearless young player, now he looks scared of his own shadow.

He was also a kid not held in particularly high regard at united... he wasn't one who was being talked about as a player certain to make it.

I'm not saying he is a poor player but maybe, just maybe he isn't the player he has been hyped up to be

 

[Gutter Boy]

I dunno. He was a fearless young player, now he looks scared of his own shadow.

I said at the start of the summer that we should try and get Rashford and Fosu-Mensah before Mourinho ruined them

 

[the dza]

I said at the start of the summer that we should try and get Rashford and Fosu-Mensah before Mourinho ruined them

I do like Fosu-Mensah, from the little I have seen of him. I think Poch would love Rashford too.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

I said at the start of the summer that we should try and get Rashford and Fosu-Mensah before Mourinho ruined them

Be won't give Fonsu-Mensah a sniff despite their defensive issues at the mo

 

[Gutter Boy]

Be won't give Fonsu-Mensah a sniff despite their defensive issues at the mo

He just has a fundamental aversion to young players

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

In terms of the style of play by England I thought it was poor, but it did work until Dier and Henderson tired. The attacking players (apart from Lallana) were lacking in technique and tactical nous, their pace and athleticism upset the Spanish team, but their lack of control, poor passing and decision making was awful, and allowed them back in the game. I though Stones had his best game for England, still making mistakes but he's probably the best we got.

 

[scaramanga]

In terms of the style of play by England I thought it was poor, but it did work until Dier and Henderson tired. The attacking players (apart from Lallana) were lacking in technique and tactical nous, their pace and athleticism upset the Spanish team, but their lack of control, poor passing and decision making was awful, and allowed them back in the game. I though Stones had his best game for England, still making mistakes but he's probably the best we got.

Fairly typical English football really - try and win by being better athletes.

Even a half-arsed Spain would have destroyed that England team.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

The point is they didn't, as I said "style" was poor but we did not delude ourselves by trying to play football, we don't have the players to do it against good international teams. I don't want England to be the international Wimbledon but we will do better playing that way until we can produce intelligent technical players. It's easy to say England are brick but no one wants to give up signing average foreign players with experience rather than play young English players. Sub standard players like Lingard and Vardy get picked as there are so few English players in their position. It's a myth that foreign players will improve the standard of our football, we just get more reliant on them to fill the important position in the team and as a consequence do not produce key players. England rely on the clubs producing players for selection and the clubs don't give a f*** it's all about the money.

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

Why was cresswell in the opposing box in the 90th minute when 2-0 up and why did he just jog back after he lost the ball in that attack that lead to their first goal?

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

Why was cresswell in the opposing box in the 90th minute when 2-0 up and why did he just jog back after he lost the ball in that attack that lead to their first goal?

In-experience?

 

[r-u-s-x]

Why was cresswell in the opposing box in the 90th minute when 2-0 up and why did he just jog back after he lost the ball in that attack that lead to their first goal?

It looks bad but for me it was all Rashford there. A bit of good passing from our midfield and the left fully open, Rashford played a terrible ball that gave Cresswell just enough hope that he had to go, if it wasn't his debut he may not have. Literally all of the left ot play a ball into and he played it 30 yards ahead.

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

That's true, it was a horrendous ball out to him. No excuses for jogging back though, he'd only been on a few minutes so can't have been tired.