Harry Redknapp: The Aftermath

[The Moonlit Knight]

Your not too fazed by bad results, you would be happy if we were in the conference then, everything in life is ultimately results driven, we would have had better results if our manager had done things differently, it will be interesting to see that if he misses out on his job will he be retained by us.

That's not what I am saying. I am saying that I am not fazed by short term results. And short term CAN equate to one season, let alone half a dozen games. I prefer to take a longer term view. I don't focus on the last half a season to form my judgement on Redknapp. I focus on his entire tenure.

 

[chancer]

Totman got banned for being a cu*t.

If you can't stand the heat........

I will continue to forcefully argue my case, if you don't like it tough.

You were arguing in support of Harrys assertion that we were nowhere near champs league, which respectfully is gonads given we were 4th for most of the season and lost it on the final day. That ISN'T nowhere near and needs to be corrected.

Just another blind Harry apologist.
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If you rate him, that's your prerogative. It's mine to hate the tw*t.

A lot of people aren't so much defending Redknapp as despairing at the bottle-jobbing and knee-jerking on this site. That's the boat I'm in. My despair at our current plight is overtaken by gratitude that many posters here are not in the dressing room. If they were, the season would be over already.

I'm not YET ready to accept that 3rd is gone, or that 4th is gone or that a squad and manager who ripped into the CL QF 12 months ago and were challenging for the title until well after Christmas - for the first time in 30 years - are suddenly brick.

 

[punk_is_back`]

So two 5th placed finishes including holding 4th place on the final day of the season is 'nowhere near' champions league? OK

Exactly. Lasagnegate was just unfortunate really, it was a freak error that made us miss out on 4th. Redknapp just knows fudge all about spurs and our history including recent history. He's tried to paint it as if we were a nothing team like west ham, before he came to us.

 

[tommysvr]

Exactly. Lasagnegate was just unfortunate really, it was a freak error that made us miss out on 4th. Redknapp just knows fudge all about spurs and our history including recent history. He's tried to paint it as if we were a nothing team like west ham, before he came to us.

Redknapp's knowledge of our history means fudge all though. It won't win us games, but his experience as a football manager at the top level will. Too many people want someone who cares deeply about the club - we had that with a few managers in recent history and they got no where.

 

[Enter the Pitbull]

It won't win us games, but his experience as a football manager at the top level will.

:lol:

 

[The Moonlit Knight]

Exactly. Lasagnegate was just unfortunate really, it was a freak error that made us miss out on 4th. Redknapp just knows fudge all about spurs and our history including recent history. He's tried to paint it as if we were a nothing team like west ham, before he came to us.

That's a wild inaccurate statement to say the least. Redknapp used to be a professional footballer and played against Spurs a fair few times, back when Spurs were genuinely a top club. He would've socialised with many people in the game, including a lot of Spurs heroes. He has been in the game as a Manager for what? 30 years? He has even managed the club for close to four now, and sat in the dugout etc and he knows fudge all about Spurs? Just wow.

 

[Jurgen the German]

By forcefully you mean acting like a prick?

Psychologically, there is a clear difference between finishing 4th and 5th, you see how much it meant to the Spurs fans and players when we finally broke into the top 4 two seasons ago. We would have all been devastated if we had gone to Eastlands and lost 4th place that same season.

Emirates Marketing Project have a superior squad to United, but if they don't win the league this season, then it will be because of a lack of belief and because their mentality is not quite the same as United's.

If you actually read some of the threads in this part of the forum instead of spending all your time whinging about Labour in the politics threads, you'd see that I have criticised Redknapp many times recently for his tinkle poor team selections, negative tactics, loaning out valuable squad players and saying he wanted Chelsea to beat Barca. I don't think the sun shines out of his arse, but I also don't believe that he hates Tottenham and is on a mission to destroy the club, bankrupt us and essentially turn us into the new Leeds United because he is a gooner/used to manage West Ham/insert irrational reason here.

 

[Jurgen the German]

Redknapp's knowledge of our history means fudge all though. It won't win us games, but his experience as a football manager at the top level will. Too many people want someone who cares deeply about the club - we had that with a few managers in recent history and they got no where.

Precisely. Everyone wanted Hoddle a few years ago, how did that turn out?

 

[The Moonlit Knight]

By forcefully you mean acting like a prick?

Psychologically, there is a clear difference between finishing 4th and 5th, you see how much it meant to the Spurs fans and players when we finally broke into the top 4 two seasons ago. We would have all been devastated if we had gone to Eastlands and lost 4th place that same season.

Emirates Marketing Project have a superior squad to United, but if they don't win the league this season, then it will be because of a lack of belief and because their mentality is not quite the same as United's.

If you actually read some of the threads in this part of the forum instead of spending all your time whinging about Labour in the politics threads, you'd see that I have criticised Redknapp many times recently for his tinkle poor team selections, negative tactics, loaning out valuable squad players and saying he wanted Chelsea to beat Barca. I don't think the sun shines out of his arse, but I also don't believe that he hates Tottenham and is on a mission to destroy the club, bankrupt us and essentially turn us into the new Leeds United because he is a gooner/used to manage West Ham/insert irrational reason here.

This, especially. Perhaps the bitter amusing thing about most of it is that Redknapp has changed what he was doing from the first half of the season. Even when we were winning the same fans wanting him gone now, were moaning. They WANTED a change in tactics, a switch to 4-5-1, us to be LESS open away from home. They were the ones tossing themselves silly over different personnel should be playing away from home etc. And they get their wish, and our results turn to brick....and do they hold their hands up and say "Hey, I was wrong. I guess it really isn't as easy as Football Manager."? No, they blame the Manager and call him useless for doing what they wanted him to do all season :lol: You couldn't make it up.....

We have four more games. I just hope that Harry :

Sticks to the same formation, ideally 4-4-1-1
Sticks with the same personnel if we are performing well. No squad rotation please, we just can't afford the inconsistency it brings right now
Tells Bale to stay wide more often and only come infield if he is struggling to get into the game.
Tells VDV to stop dropping deep to get the ball when Modric is already there doing the same thing

If we keep it simple, then I genuinely believe we have a great chance of top four.

 

[indianspur]

Precisely. Everyone wanted Hoddle a few years ago, how did that turn out?

Ossie too

 

[The Moonlit Knight]

Precisely. Everyone wanted Hoddle a few years ago, how did that turn out?

I'd have him back next season personally. I'd love to see him with this bunch of players and most importantly of all without being backstabbed by a Director of Football.....

 

[Essex Yid]

I'd have him back next season personally. I'd love to see him with this bunch of players and most importantly of all without being backstabbed by a Director of Football.....

Yeah, he'd get rid of the bottlejob mentality we've got. Err http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXppwUfyJmc

 

[The Moonlit Knight]

We missed out on Parker because he went chasing the ?ú?ú?ú?ú?ú at chelsea.

Yep. We also missed out on Davis too (Arnesen bought him a year later) due to Pleat telling Levy we didn't need a DM because we had King. But what it proved was that Hoddle was well aware that the team had a very soft centre and needed a DM. He put forward viable targets and the club failed to deliver them and the Manager paid the price.

 

[Roy1983]

Come off it much as we love Hoddle it wouldn't be right to bring him back. As for totman being a **** leedspur he isn't. Just like your not just two very opinionated posters which is great for the forum.

 

[The Moonlit Knight]

Yeah, he'd get rid of the bottlejob mentality we've got. Err http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXppwUfyJmc

Manager won't instill that. You can't coach mentality past a very young age. Others around you can inspire you, hence our desperate need for a leader on the pitch (something Redknapp to be fair has said since he first arrived) but the winning mentality is usually built in to people.

The only way to get rid of the bottlejob? Replace the players who wilt under the pressure. A couple of our "stars" do that too often, hence why I am no longer bothered if a certain Croatian does the off this Summer.

 

[Jurgen the German]

I'd have him back next season personally. I'd love to see him with this bunch of players and most importantly of all without being backstabbed by a Director of Football.....

I'm not sure. It didn't work the first time. He'd give the fans a lift, but we should look at Liverpool and "King Kenny" as a great example of why it is not always best to employ a manager who was a beloved fans favourite.

 

[nayimfromthehalfwayline]

Also why its not always best to employ a manager who hasnt actually worked as such for years...

 

[The Moonlit Knight]

I'm not sure. It didn't work the first time. He'd give the fans a lift, but we should look at Liverpool and "King Kenny" as a great example of why it is not always best to employ a manager who was a beloved fans favourite.

It'll be interesting to see if Dalglish is there next season and whether his transfer dealings improve now he now longer has the clown as a DoF there.

 

[Modric THFC]

A lot of people aren't so much defending Redknapp as despairing at the bottle-jobbing and knee-jerking on this site. That's the boat I'm in. My despair at our current plight is overtaken by gratitude that many posters here are not in the dressing room. If they were, the season would be over already.

I'm not YET ready to accept that 3rd is gone, or that 4th is gone or that a squad and manager who ripped into the CL QF 12 months ago and were challenging for the title until well after Christmas - for the first time in 30 years - are suddenly brick.

Surely thinking we can make up 6 points on Arsenal when we have got 6 points from our last 8 games is burying your head in the sand.
The squad aren't brick. They aren't motivated any more. And opposition teams aren't being as open against us any more, so we're really struggling to break teams down.

 

[Jurgen the German]

Manager won't instill that. You can't coach mentality past a very young age. Others around you can inspire you, hence our desperate need for a leader on the pitch (something Redknapp to be fair has said since he first arrived) but the winning mentality is usually built in to people.

The only way to get rid of the bottlejob? Replace the players who wilt under the pressure. A couple of our "stars" do that too often, hence why I am no longer bothered if a certain Croatian does the off this Summer.

This is a bit of a sweeping statement, but I think a lot of Eastern Europeans wilt under the pressure, not just in football btw. If anything, they should be the opposite as a large percentage of them have endured serious struggles in their homelands.