Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
It’s why I was a bit peeved that we didn’t seriously go in for Ndicka.
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Giovani Lo Celso
- Thread starter Jordinho
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For me - He never fancied it. Every time we needed him, he was unavailable for one reason or another. Then a week or two later, available for Argentina. Over and over and over again. PL was too much for him imo.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Fair comment.
metalgear
Luka Modric
Romero too last season. I think it was because there was a real determination by Argentina players to win the world cup with Messi.
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K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Ian Walker
I think the world cup and Conte's illness were the major factors in our implosion last season, the football wasn't great but we were in contention until that break and the whole focus seemed to be lost after that.
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
A half paced pre season friendly against a West Ham team containing about 5 of their first team players isn’t a particularly good way of judging whether or not it is worth retaining or jettisoning Lo Celso IMO.
Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
The World Cup and CL affected teams that had players in both comps
No coincidence that three teams made top 4 that weren’t on the CL and comparably had fewer players in the WC than the teams that we’re in the CL
City winning all 3 cups shows how important depth and a lack of drop off of quality is
papaspur
Kasey Keller
I agree with this, but just want to add that having games in hand made our table position look better than it actually was. At some point, we had played 3-4 more matches than teams right below us when we were in 4th.
In other words, things looked better than they actually were and we were out of contention a bit earlier than most of us thought or realized.
Bishop
Nick Barmby
Thoughts from Ange after the friendly.
“You don't have to go to Spain mate,” he said in his post-match press conference.
“You can just ask me. Yeah, I like Gio.
“He fits the way we play. I enjoy working with him and he seems to enjoy working with us.”
Looks like he's staying this season and I think that makes sense. I've said before I do think he was mismanaged (along with injuries) at Spurs and so was never able to really get a rhythm going.
Let's see if Ange can make a difference where Mourinho couldn't and Conte didn't even try.
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“You don't have to go to Spain mate,” he said in his post-match press conference.
“You can just ask me. Yeah, I like Gio.
“He fits the way we play. I enjoy working with him and he seems to enjoy working with us.”
Looks like he's staying this season and I think that makes sense. I've said before I do think he was mismanaged (along with injuries) at Spurs and so was never able to really get a rhythm going.
Let's see if Ange can make a difference where Mourinho couldn't and Conte didn't even try.
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Yep. And with a group of Skipp, Sarr, Bisouma, Maddison, Bentancur, GLC and Devine I think we have a decent balance and good depth. 7 CMs for the 3 positions, which makes sense given Bisouma/Sarr have ANC in January.
We can therefore sell PEH without necessarily needing a replacement, and also sell/loan Ndombele and White.
Perhaps loan out Devine in late Jan once Bentancur has recovered and Bisouma/Sarr are back
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Devine needs a loan from the start of the season, that boy needs games to keep progressing. White can be the cover, 6th reserve.
He might get games if PEH and Ndombele leave, and whilst Bentancur is recovering still
I think White will be gone in August
He needs to learn his trade and get regular gametime. Hindering his development will just hurt us in the long term.
Some young players go on loan, some don't.
I dont think there's any correlation between those who do/don't and are successful/fail
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
I’ve got massive misgivings…. Would love to be wrong but it has looked to me as though Lo Celso is completely unsuited to PL football…. Slow, weak and horribly one footed. He might have the time to work the ball on to his only foot in these half paced pre season friendlies against weak opposition but that is completely different to games in the premier league.
metalgear
Luka Modric
Lo celso thrives in tight spaces. One touch and quick darts into space. From the pre season games the ball goes through him much quicker than maddison, who is good in a different way (ball carrying attacking threat)
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Bedfordspurs
Chris Waddle
Would you concede that the managers he played for here were also ones that played slow, ponderous football that may. may, have caused some players that the late great Poch wanted to struggle
hus injuries are a worry for me as they were frequent when here but not in the sunshine of Spain
But we have seen games that when fit and playing as focal point he has driven parts of games that we have been lacking in
parklane1
Tony Galvin
You may be right but i hope Ange gives him the chance to show what he can do with the talent he has, time will tell i guess.